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Title: XH558's Friends Scheme
Post by: Board Admin on September 16, 2011, 06:25:37 PM
We announce news today on how you can be more involved with XH558, getting closer to the aircraft and her crew with events designed especially for you, whilst also giving you priority notice of other 'ticketed' functions to help with funding. This is all possible because we finally have a permanent home for XH558.

Rewards will recognise the generosity from previous donors and all those who support us with donations from today. *

We will be using the power of our database systems and adding features to make it easier for people to make contributions, like accepting direct debits.

There will be three levels in our Friends scheme that will help increase the 'Butterfly Effect' we have mentioned before, allowing us to expand our educational activities and broaden the attractions available in our hangar tour we are calling 'The Vulcan Experience.'

Level 1: Friend: - £5.58 per month or cumulative donations of £60 or more in any one year.

Level 2: Gold Friend: - £18 per month or cumulative donations of £200 or more in any one year.

Level 3: Vulcan Guardian: - £55.80 per month or over £650 in any one year.

The above will incorporate some of the following exclusive benefits at various levels:

-Dedicated Friends badge and car sticker.
-Name on a yearly FRIENDS OF XH558 plaque to be added to the aircraft at the start of each season.
-Name on a listing within the hangar.
-Priority invites to quarterly 'behind the scenes' gatherings.
-Priority notice of organised events.
-Discounts on hangar tours and other ticketed events.
-Entry into our Flying Fund Draw to win a monthly cash prize.
-Automatic inclusion in our weekly email newsletters.
-Offers on special merchandise.
-Access for guests and selected other incentives to be confirmed.
-Opportunities to meet key personnel.

Full details of the benefits available with each level will be given on a special Friends of XH558 Page to be published on our Web Site and detailed in a postal mailing coming out next month. So, as this takes shape between now and the end of the year, you will be the first to know through this newsletter.

How it will work.
The three levels available have been tailored around the typical amounts different types of supporter tend to give each year and if these levels continue, your membership will be renewed each year with all the corresponding benefits. Between now and 'going live' in January, we will be looking at all those who qualify in the four years since first flight. All those that do, even if it was back in 2007, will be eligible. It will be a way of encouraging fresh support and will possibly re-engage those who might have lost touch with us.

*Please note: The Friends Scheme is based around cumulative annual or monthly pure 'monetary' donations and is not linked to any other promotion that might be offered from time to time.
Title: Re: XH558's Friends Scheme
Post by: jonjo on September 16, 2011, 07:39:13 PM
This is brill idea.... But can i ask that i gave a large one off amount of money back in the year 2000 which came under Associated member, Will this count as well, all i received was a certificate with VIP tickets for something that never happened, and also i noticed i am not on the roll of honur list too.....
Title: Re: XH558's Friends Scheme
Post by: eddief on September 17, 2011, 12:26:25 AM
I really don't know the details but I think it all hinges on the database that has been built up/stitched together from historic records.  And the records probably die away quite quickly much before "first flight"?

Ian's the chap to answer this one & I'm sure he will respond as soon as he can.
Title: Re: XH558's Friends Scheme
Post by: planenut on September 17, 2011, 04:32:23 AM
This is going to be a hard one to set up, with so many attempts in the past to get the project underway, some will miss out.
Title: Re: XH558's Friends Scheme
Post by: Zero One on September 17, 2011, 07:03:53 AM
Quote from: "jonjo"
This is brill idea.... But can i ask that i gave a large one off amount of money back in the year 2000 which came under Associated member, Will this count as well, all i received was a certificate with VIP tickets for something that never happened, and also i noticed i am not on the roll of honur list too.....


Is this the Founding Sponsor Scheme the club signed up to or something else, I can't remember can anyone else?
Title: Re: XH558's Friends Scheme
Post by: jonjo on September 17, 2011, 10:24:47 AM
Quote from: "Zero One"
Quote from: "jonjo"
This is brill idea.... But can i ask that i gave a large one off amount of money back in the year 2000 which came under Associated member, Will this count as well, all i received was a certificate with VIP tickets for something that never happened, and also i noticed i am not on the roll of honur list too.....


Is this the Founding Sponsor Scheme the club signed up to or something else, I can't remember can anyone else?

All i can remember is that you paid to become an Associate member with a certificate/ pin badge/ and blue tickets that have VIP on them for an avent that never happened. i beleive rusty would know about it  :?:
Title: Re: XH558's Friends Scheme
Post by: PA28 on September 19, 2011, 10:33:58 AM
I'd have to ask for that far back, as the person looking after the database now was confident we had records back to 2007, but it could well be very patchy before then.

Monies of that earlier time, certainly helped with the restoration and the 'return to flight' and there is no way we would be here today if not for those valuable contributions.

However, as the newsletter explains, it is a case of engaging many that have drifted away over the last few years and also rewarding those that are still with us now or are going to join us moving forward. There has to be a cut-off somewhere and accurate data is paramount.

Securing greater financial support is one sure way of making sure those earlier 'investments' are not wasted... perhaps that will have to be the solice for some.

As I say, I'll enquire, but can make no promises outside of what has been outlined already in the newsletter.

Regards,
Ian
Title: Re: XH558's Friends Scheme
Post by: Panel 10 on September 19, 2011, 01:05:35 PM
Does 'donations' include what is spent in the web shop or ring fenced components of the winter service for example or is it only direct donations to the lady that will be counted towards the friends scheme??
Title: Re: XH558's Friends Scheme
Post by: PA28 on September 19, 2011, 02:10:29 PM
Only direct monetary donations of cash/cheques etc... the newsletter did try to clarify here:

*Please note: The Friends Scheme is based around cumulative annual or monthly pure 'monetary' donations and is not linked to any other promotion that might be offered from time to time.
Title: Re: XH558's Friends Scheme
Post by: Panel 10 on September 19, 2011, 02:25:34 PM
Thanks for clarifying, I missed that. :oops:
Title: Re: XH558's Friends Scheme
Post by: jonjo on September 19, 2011, 02:29:46 PM
Quote from: "PA28"
I'd have to ask for that far back, as the person looking after the database now was confident we had records back to 2007, but it could well be very patchy before then.

Monies of that earlier time, certainly helped with the restoration and the 'return to flight' and there is no way we would be here today if not for those valuable contributions.

However, as the newsletter explains, it is a case of engaging many that have drifted away over the last few years and also rewarding those that are still with us now or are going to join us moving forward. There has to be a cut-off somewhere and accurate data is paramount.

Securing greater financial support is one sure way of making sure those earlier 'investments' are not wasted... perhaps that will have to be the solice for some.

As I say, I'll enquire, but can make no promises outside of what has been outlined already in the newsletter.



Regards,
Ian

Ok.... Thank you Ian.... :D
Title: Re: XH558's Friends Scheme
Post by: speedy on September 20, 2011, 04:41:55 PM
So, the likes of us who already direct debit a tenner a month are already friends then, I presume??

Edit after thinking:

I have a family membership to cover she who must be obeyed.  We both do a tenner a month, so seeing as both the individual and family memberships cost the same and get the same stuff through the post, does that count as two members of the friends category, or one membership that is a gold friend?  Or am I just trying to confuse things? lol
Title: Re: XH558's Friends Scheme
Post by: wcg on September 20, 2011, 04:48:30 PM
Speedy ;
Well it does say :
"Rewards will recognise the generosity from previous donors and all those who support us with donations from today"
and :
"we will be looking at all those who qualify in the four years since first flight. All those that do, even if it was back in 2007, will be eligible"
!!!
Title: Re: XH558's Friends Scheme
Post by: speedy on September 20, 2011, 04:56:05 PM
I wonder if the £70 of my SSP donation that wasn't included on the certificate can be added....  :twisted:
Title: Re: XH558's Friends Scheme
Post by: PA28 on September 20, 2011, 05:43:29 PM
Your existing £10 per month will be recorded and will qualify you as a 'Friend'. However, do not confuse this scheme with Club Membership, that is a completely different aspect. This is a Trust scheme designed to encourage direct donations towards the upkeep of the aircraft and hence, giving you rewards of information and organised events where you will be able to attend and get close to her.

The scheme is 'per individual'... I'll give an example of why that needs to be:

You can't have one person paying £20 and being offered say a £5 discount for said event, while two people pay 2 x £10 and would wish to claim 2 x £5 discounts if they wished to attend. As with all things Vulcan, there will be certain anomalies that crop up and I'll try to settle them here.

If you are refering to an ISP (Individual Sponsorship Pack) then no, sorry, I've already covered that point - they do not apply and are not counted towards the scheme.

Bands are:  £60 / £200 / £600 per year in cumulative cash/cheque donations, or monthly standing orders of £5.58 / £18 or £55.80.

Once the exact benefits are published, and higher levels might have better 'guest' facilities, you will have to work out what works best in your situation. As you can see, it's not that easy to reach the best compromise and thus, packages are still being developed to cater for such eventualities and to encourage 'trading up' where a single £10 might become £18, since that might give the whole family access or discount.

In your case, we might lose £2!   It's all in final planning and will become clearer once the FRIENDS SCHEME pages are finished!!

Regards,
Ian
Title: Re: XH558's Friends Scheme
Post by: Grumpyjohn on November 11, 2011, 08:31:24 PM
Has this scheme died a death? When it was announced on Sept 16th we were told that "Full details of the benefits available with each level will be given on a special Friends of XH558 Page to be published on our Web Site...

Have I missed this?

Oops, it's mentioned in the new email newsletter. Sorry!  :oops:  

John
Title: Re: XH558's Friends Scheme
Post by: isibob on November 11, 2011, 08:39:30 PM
Quote from: "Grumpyjohn"
Has this scheme died a death? When it was announced on Sept 16th we were told that "Full details of the benefits available with each level will be given on a special Friends of XH558 Page to be published on our Web Site...

Have I missed this?

GJ

 From today's Newsbytes

UPDATE ON OUR FRIENDS SCHEME FOR 2012 AND BEYOND
   We continue to work on our rewards package that we will introduce in the Spring of 2012. We have delayed launch slightly due to the mammoth task of collating all the data to enable us to run it smoothly. In fact, we are already building the IT infrastructure over the coming months ahead of AND BEYOND the official launch. Part of this will be the ability to accept Direct Debits, which are increasingly requested from our loyal followers as being the simplest and most convenient way of giving regular financial support.

The Friends Scheme is intended to reward all those people who have not only supported us during the last 12 months or so, but all those who have supported us through many appeals since first flight back in 2007. Any donations you make over the coming months either as one-offs or as standing orders, will also be counted towards the various levels we will introduce, giving everyone advanced notice of special events designed especially for them, enabling access to the aircraft and her crew like never before.

It is intended that this Friends Scheme will then be the cornerstone of our funding drive throughout 2012, giving us the ideal way of capturing more followers as we settle into our permanent home at Robin Hood, making a visitor attraction to be really proud off, all while expanding our educational objectives.
Title: Re: XH558's Friends Scheme
Post by: andyt on August 14, 2012, 11:09:32 AM
I too was interested in this scheme having been a regular small contributor via standing order for some years.

We now have the situation where people who donate a one off £60.00 to the anniversary appeal get their name on a special plaque plus a signed photo and certificate.  Those friends who are donating even the £5.88 / mth suggested elsewhere by VTST which equates to REGULAR annual income of over £70 don't even get a mention.  Just a promise of a friends scheme that will start in 2012.  Well it's August already !!

Back on Sep 16, 2011  Ian Homer announced the scheme promising things such as our name on a special supporters plaque each year, discounts, priority notice of events, priority invites to quarterly gatherings.  Well I've not seen anything yet.  Bit like the promised full investigation into how the engines suffered FOD ~ that's all gone quiet, will we all ever hear of that or the friends scheme ?

I am seriously thinking about reducing my monthly donation by £10 and that would give me £120 / year to fund these "special offers".  Unlike most other charities VTST don't seem to value their regular contributors.

Andy
Title: Re: XH558's Friends Scheme
Post by: Gregg on August 14, 2012, 11:53:21 AM
It's a good idea except its to late in her flying life for this, I very much doubt that her current home is a permanent one. There's going to be a lot of very unhappy people who've shelled out a lot of time and money in donations and volunteering who won't like this.

Cracking idea but again, to late in my opinion
Title: Re: XH558's Friends Scheme
Post by: Jumbo Girl on August 14, 2012, 08:49:22 PM
Quote from: "Gregg"
It's a good idea except its to late in her flying life for this, I very much doubt that her current home is a permanent one. There's going to be a lot of very unhappy people who've shelled out a lot of time and money in donations and volunteering who won't like this.

Cracking idea but again, to late in my opinion

[mean pedantry]
It's too late too  :twisted:  :D
[/mean pedantry]
Title: Re: XH558's Friends Scheme
Post by: Gregg on August 14, 2012, 08:51:16 PM
Yup, you're right my mistake :D
Title: Re: XH558's Friends Scheme
Post by: Jumbo Girl on August 14, 2012, 08:52:43 PM
Quote from: "Gregg"
Yup, you're right my mistake :D

You're meant to throw all of your toys out of the pram, bang on about how much you hate me, drop in a subtle (not) reminder that you were at First Flight and I wasn't, and then write a "fine, I'm leaving" thread. Don't you know ANYTHING?  :D
Title: Re: XH558's Friends Scheme
Post by: Gregg on August 14, 2012, 08:54:21 PM
Oh bugger! I forgot, thanks for reminding me :D
Title: Re: XH558's Friends Scheme
Post by: Jumbo Girl on August 14, 2012, 08:57:52 PM
Anyway, I don't want to be a "friend of 558", I want to be in a special "people who are really annoying but are sometimes useful so we can't get rid of them" category  :D
Title: Re: XH558's Friends Scheme
Post by: Gregg on August 14, 2012, 08:58:59 PM
Good innit, we can almost get away with anything :D
Title: Re: XH558's Friends Scheme
Post by: Zero One on August 14, 2012, 09:48:47 PM
Quote from: "Gregg"
It's a good idea except its to late in her flying life for this, I very much doubt that her current home is a permanent one. There's going to be a lot of very unhappy people who've shelled out a lot of time and money in donations and volunteering who won't like this.


Sounds awfully familliar ..... just like in 2009 when she was removed from Bruntingthorpe and 2011? when she was moved again from Wiltshire to Finningley... er sorry RHA
Title: Re: XH558's Friends Scheme
Post by: leslie on August 15, 2012, 08:44:57 AM
Theres to many schemes in my opinion, I just do the flying fund draw or what ever its called now.
Title: Re: XH558's Friends Scheme
Post by: PA28 on August 15, 2012, 09:46:59 AM
Andy has highlighted why we needed a vehicle to thank all those who have supported us over the years.

Work is still in progress and I'll be able to give a full reply on Thursday when I'm next back in the office.
A full and proper explanation is required for this.

By the way Andy, I dont come up with these schemes entirely by myself. I merely publish and promote them and are therefore seen as the 'public face' sometimes. There is a core 'Executive' team of The Trust, of which I'm a member, looking at various options and when I have the collective position taking all current factors into account, I can advise the latest. I'm also the one that still takes time to monitor this forum.

Best regards,
Ian
Title: Re: XH558's Friends Scheme
Post by: brains_mt on August 15, 2012, 11:17:39 AM
Quote
Good innit, we can almost get away with anything :D

Well not quite, my friend!! The mods are watching.............. :|
Title: Re: XH558's Friends Scheme
Post by: Jumbo Girl on August 15, 2012, 07:54:11 PM
Quote from: "brains_mt"

Well not quite, my friend!! The mods are watching.............. :|

Lies! You were not watching! There wasn't a single moderator online, you were all either eating biscuits or snoozing on the sofa with your mouths wide open  :D  :D
Title: Re: XH558's Friends Scheme
Post by: brains_mt on August 15, 2012, 10:31:45 PM
We can sign in without  you knowing!!! :o
Title: Re: XH558's Friends Scheme
Post by: Board Admin on August 16, 2012, 04:50:18 PM
Notice from Trust Executive:

With regard to the Friends Scheme launch, people will no doubt be aware of issues this Spring which ultimately delayed our planning towards this.

We still have matters to resolve in delivering a professional rewards scheme, some of which you have seen in the discussion document with regard to planning the longer term future of XH558, presented within our proposals for Ve3.

You can see a copy of those plans here: http://www.tinyurl.com/futureengineer (http://www.tinyurl.com/futureengineer)

We are however aware, that without people like you, we would not have a flying Vulcan at all, so we want to be assured of providing a lasting benefit to you in recognising that support.

On the point about the engine incident having "gone quiet", we would respond that having communicated the basic circumstances of the incident publicly within 24 hours, and submitted the required Mandatory Occurrence report to the CAA, the Trust then started a formal investigation as expected of an organisation with strict safety management policies, under the leadership of a Board member.

This resulted in an Investigation Report containing recommendations that was sent to the Board and the Executive Team. The recommendations have been accepted and implemented, and recently a closure report was sent by the Executive Team to the Board.

A summary of these reports will be published once the Board has responded, taking into account the implications of our "No Blame" policy.

We hope this helps to clarify the situation for you.

Many thanks.
Title: Re: XH558's Friends Scheme
Post by: Jumbo Girl on August 16, 2012, 08:57:33 PM
Quote from: "brains_mt"
We can sign in without  you knowing!!! :o

Yeah but you were snoring on the sofa. We could see you on our special Team SCUM ModCam  :D  you really wouldn't wanna see what Mr Tim's doing right now!  :shock:
Title: Re: XH558's Friends Scheme
Post by: sickbag_andy on October 05, 2012, 07:09:37 AM
this was announced over a year ago now but all has gone silent, are there no friends out there?
Title: Re: XH558's Friends Scheme
Post by: MT Vessel on October 09, 2012, 07:50:03 PM
Hi Ian was wondering if I fall into any of the above mentioned categories. I do D/D £5.58 each month and have given a few donations, cant remember how many maybe you can tell me.
Title: Re: XH558's Friends Scheme - All gone a bit quiet on this !
Post by: andyt on October 12, 2012, 06:32:48 PM
It's a year now since this was announced.  Was due to start in 2012.  Not much time left now.  What with today's announcement of end of flying I wonder if it will even launch before flying ceases...
Title: Re: XH558's Friends Scheme
Post by: MrTim on September 04, 2013, 11:09:04 AM
Whatever happened to this scheme?  Has it been dropped?
Title: Re: XH558's Friends Scheme
Post by: PhillyJ on September 04, 2013, 12:06:10 PM
haha, I just read the entire thread again as I'd forgotten all about it and assumed it was new  ::)
Title: Re: XH558's Friends Scheme
Post by: Gully on September 09, 2013, 02:01:43 PM
I suspect this now may be one for the post-flight legacy period...

Gully