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Engineering / Re: So that's it then?
« on: Today at 02:09:59 PM »
I know some of you don't like UKAR, but you may be interested in reading some of the recent posts on there ( last page - page 58 )

Engineering / Re: So that's it then?
« on: April 08, 2018, 01:04:55 PM »
Remember, though, it's not just Moderators who can remove posts....and if someone other than a Mod removes them, they won't show up as having been moderated.

And on a different note....
Post on UKAR earlier today saying :
Engine runs in about 45 mins.. A crowd gathering.

Aviation Waffle / Re: Spotted
« on: March 29, 2018, 03:24:54 PM »
No worries.
If I'm unsure, I check the SWAG website ( ) as they're usually up to date on daily movements.

Aviation Waffle / Re: Spotted
« on: March 29, 2018, 01:29:50 PM »
Are you sure about that?
It's still there as far as I know,  as is G-BWGL, which arrived just over a week earlier ( both are at HAS for maintenance )
Granted I may have missed it, but I haven't heard it working St Athan or Cardiff since it arrived - the only ex-Mil that have done air-tests then departed recently are JPs & L-29s
SWAG also hasn't reported it as having departed.

Aviation Waffle / Re: MH370 Search to restart
« on: February 10, 2018, 02:02:08 PM »
Maybe hire them to find out on a 'No find, No fee' basis as well ;D

That's exactly what they've done.
Used to be called Lloyds Open Charter in the maritime world, don't know what the aviation equivalent is ( unless, of course, they're operating under the maritime system )

As I posted on UKAR, with regards the 'Founding Guardians'....

I saw the following ( from May this year)...
There were somewhere around 2,200 Club Members who joined the 'FG' scheme when the VTTS Club was binned -- that's less than half the people who were Club Members at the time.
Some have left since then, others on the Forum are saying they'll not be renewing their membership.
If the membership's still £21, that's a total income of just over £46k ...... not a lot compared to what the Club Membership and the various fundraising schemes & Club shop used to bring in.
You could say that it probably pays less than 2 peoples' wages. >:D

Happy to be corrected on those figures if anyone's got more accurate ones.

And no, unless they suddenly find another mystery benefactor I don't see it happening.

Engineering / Re: So that's it then?
« on: December 15, 2017, 04:57:40 PM »
From today's newsletter, for those who don't get it....

We have been led to expect the determination on our New Heritage Hangar planning application before the end of the year, so just as soon as we have news on the decision, we will advise you in the first available newsletter and across our social media channels of Facebook and Twitter. 

Engineering / Re: So that's it then?
« on: December 08, 2017, 02:04:49 PM »
They hid that away well !

Engineering / Re: So that's it then?
« on: December 08, 2017, 12:44:34 PM »
I couldn't find anything either, until 'Microlightdriver' pointed out that the 'Forum' button on the horizontal row ( between 'History/Articles' & 'How to help' ) is labelled incorrectly !
It actually takes you to what used to be the 'Club' page & simply states the following :
For all enquiries regarding the Founding Guardians please contact our office - details below.

Please do not try to contact the Vulcan to the Sky Club office as it is now closed.

The Vulcan Marketing Company
Office: 12 Dunns Close Nuneaton, Warwickshire. CV11 4NF. United Kingdom.

Telephone 02476 322 259
Direct Line 02476 322 264

That's all...nothing else.

Engineering / Re: So that's it then?
« on: December 07, 2017, 05:02:39 PM »
Questions asked on UKAR......
What benefits ( if any ) do those who are 'Founding Guardians' get for their membership fee ?
Also, is the scheme which was introduced ( or going to be introduced ? ) for new 'Guardians' still going ?

Engineering / Re: So that's it then?
« on: December 06, 2017, 08:59:08 PM »
It's a shame that there's still nobody who'll come on here in an official ( or even semi-official ) capacity and address these concerns.

About the only person you see attempting to defend VTST & their policies is 'Microlightdriver' on UKAR.

Engineering / Re: So that's it then?
« on: December 05, 2017, 10:45:09 AM »
As I've posted on UKAR.....Unless things have changed, as far as I can work out :

1. Full-time staff should currently consist of :
Engineering Manager, Webstore Manager, Admin Manager, Remote Stock Sales Manager, Admin Manager at Doncaster, Facilities Manager.
Webstore assistant, Admin assistant, Remote Stock Sales Assistant, Admin Assistant at Doncaster.
( So 6 Managers & 4 Assistants )

2. I shudder to think.
The salary alone ( excluding pensions, consultants' fees, etc. ) was £750k when they had 22 staff.
Only one staff member ( Dr.P. ) was getting paid more than £60k
They've got roughly half the staff, so logically the wage bill reflects this.....theoretically, I'd guess it's now somewhere around £300-350k PA ( so around £25-£30k per month )

Anyone dispute the accuracy of this ?

Engineering / Re: So that's it then?
« on: December 04, 2017, 02:45:28 PM »
Isn’t one of the Trustees registered on here?
Yep...Steve Liddle ( 'SteveL' )

Engineering / Re: So that's it then?
« on: December 04, 2017, 12:56:57 PM »
Meh !!
I beat the pair of you - I stopped donating in 2013, albeit that mine were ad-hoc donations rather that subscriptions.
I was contacted....not by anyone from VTST, but from Sarah F. & Graham H. as I also binned my Club membership.

I've been contemplating bunging some money at XL388, but I wouldn't want to jinx the project -- the last 3 aviation projects I've donated to being Meteor WZ507 ( a couple of months before they sold it ) Shackleton WR963 ( a couple of months before they had their 'organisation problems' ) and the Sea Vixen ( a couple of months before they crashed it the last time )  :-[
So if anyone's got an aviation project they want to put the kibosh on, let us know !!  >:D

Oh, and speaking of XL388....
For those who don't frequent UKAR, the question's been raised on there -- for their ongoing restoration, have VTST given them any buckshee kit, or has anything they've had off VTST had to have been paid for ?

Engineering / Re: So that's it then?
« on: December 01, 2017, 08:37:53 PM »
2 Excel are in the process of setting up their own 145 Maintenance Organisation in the Hangar, which will hopefully be operational in January and need the space.


Thanks for the confirmation & the explanation for the move.
Presumably it's not just a temporary measure, then.

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