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Engineering / Re: How would you feel?
« on: September 25, 2017, 11:19:41 AM »

 Mike

I seem to remember when they set up the trust, that Mr Edmondson dictated that no member of the Trust employees was to post on any forum including this one, but both Sam and I did ????????



Not really how I recall it Denis?

As you probably remember myself and others were frequent contributors to this and many other forums throughout the restoration and I always did my level best to pass on as much engineering information and progress updates as I physically had the opportunity to.

This was in fact one of the main areas that both Andrew and Robert said they would like me to focus on when offering me a position in the team for the flying phase.


Cheers,
Ron


Hi Ron
a blast from the past?

Guess  office work catches up with us all in the end...

Now I know you never thought much of me or the job I did but no one else wanted it and it seemed to me you liked to take any opportunity to ridicule or contradict anything I said...  I see nothing has changed!

Maybe it was an edict to the office staff only in case we broadcast something we may have inadvertently over heard, but I know that my confidentiality agreement was very specific on this point

I never was very good at keeping secrets, but I tried.

I know of at least  3 instances, they used this failing to disseminate  things to the hangar unofficially. 

You obviously got special dispensation from the management to post on social media, only on the engineering aspects, which I knew nothing of...

regards
Denis

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Ways To Raise Funding / Re: Funding the new hangar - how?
« on: September 25, 2017, 08:00:35 AM »
.........

Then of course if there is no sign of the funding for ETNA a year or three down the line the airport might offer the designated site to somebody else for commercial use and 558 will be put out to grass in the open, assuming of course there is still a space available somewhere by that time - that could be when the real crunch comes (not literally I hope!).

Red Arrows maybe?  ^-^

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Engineering / Re: So that's it then?
« on: September 14, 2017, 04:36:15 PM »
Yep, that's about the timeframe.
The relocation is usually pretty easy ( or did the J20 guys squidge them with a Euklid then say "sorry 'bout that'  :)) ) it's the making sure none come back which takes the time.......usually they wait until after the breeding season, which I think is around March or April.

Nah they had an environmental gestapo rep on site

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Engineering / Re: So that's it then?
« on: September 14, 2017, 03:51:46 PM »
Just seen this on the Vulcan XH558's Facebook page.

"Just received the latest guardian news letter and I see that the proposed site for the new hangar has great crested newts won't that now cause significant problems getting planning permission?"

That won't take long to sort...... Took the M1 junc 20 Crick, guys 7 months to sort that out

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Engineering / Re: So that's it then?
« on: September 14, 2017, 09:22:33 AM »
Thanx Clive and Andy
Hadn't realised how bad their situation has got, been out of it for 8 yrs, wouldn't have happened if a certain red head had still controlled the financies.
She would not have let it get as bad as this

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Engineering / Re: So that's it then?
« on: September 14, 2017, 07:54:58 AM »
Clive
Correct me if I'm wrong but arn't these accounts   for year end 2016 prior to the removal from hangar and downsizing of staff?
Didn't I read somewhere that Robert was now on part time, Mr Trotter, believe is a consultant also on part time? 

Will have to go back and see Sam's list of staff as I missed it..... Have now found it, am amazed more than I ever thought..... OMG

I wonder how many and who they are, are still on full time contracts?

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Engineering / Re: How would you feel?
« on: September 12, 2017, 08:27:57 AM »
I think We upset him by ridiculing his latest scheme to cover 558 in stickers in order to keep 10 people in a job!
He also took exception to being  questioned about his role in the current 558 debacle and would not answer simple questions about the current finances and the number of Trust employees on the payroll stating that he was only a contractor and just following orders ::)

Mike


That was his idea, might have guessed although I personally would think it's more likely to be Mr Trotter.
As to remaining staff....
Let's think about this?
 
Dr Robert (CEO) part time
Andy Edmondson (eng manager) full time
Mr Trotter (VTSE) part time
1  Finance at Nuneaton ?
1 Admin at Nuneaton ? 
Taff zero hours contract?
Is there anyone else at Robin Hood?

Where are the other reported 4 of 10?

This all I can think of and as I read somewhere their job status.
Question  Is can you count part time and zero hours as employed?

There is a bloke called  Boddington hanging around, but don't know his status

Wasn't there 3 engineers sub contracted to 2Exel in hangar 3 ..... Are they counted as employed?

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Engineering / Re: So that's it then?
« on: September 11, 2017, 08:20:44 PM »
Now the engines have been run there is no inhibiting oil in the fuel system.  The inhibiting oil prevents the seals in the fuel system from rotting

That does sound a bit of a worry but how do all the other preserved aircraft at places like Bruntingthorpe and Elvington get on. Do they do regular anti-det runs on them. If they do then they dont give much publicty to them and would have thought they could attract a few extra visitors if the public were told they were happening.

Andy
Regards anti-det runs at Bruntingthorpe we try to run engines and systems every 16 days unfortunately we can't advertise them as visitors would not be insured only us volunteers are covered.

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 I do worry that 558 is going to continually lurch from one problem (dont like to use the word crisis) and sooner or later the support will dry up. Shame there arent any remaining club funs that can be used to protect her but l assume even if they havent been finally handed over yet they will only go on wages when they finally do reach the trust. I do wonder why they need to retain several full time staff members now, other groups dont  operate on that model and are successful in thier aspirations.

Ive said it before and l will say it again, lf only the vote hadnt been for integration but association we would be in a much stronger position to give the right kind of selective help.

Totally agree with this sentiment I always said and i didn't vote for integration biggest mistake we ever made

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Engineering / Re: How would you feel?
« on: September 11, 2017, 07:16:50 PM »
Now that Ian the Administrator has left i can imagine they will shut the forum..
Back up plan needed soon me thinks!??


When did that happen? Why? Anyone know?

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Engineering / Re: How would you feel?
« on: September 11, 2017, 07:14:27 PM »
Well the quiet Monday came and went.

Still no replies from the grown ups.

Guess they have reverted to type and are now just ignoring us and hope that we will all get bored and go away....
Pretty much my thoughts Sam !what a rubbish line of communication the Trust have adopted,still so long as people continue to be sucked in to donating and spending money with them they will just continue on and ignore our questions and comments,I wouldn't be surprised if they shut the Forum down to finaly silence us !!

 >:(

Mike


 Mike

I seem to remember when they set up the trust, that Mr Edmondson dictated that no member of the Trust employees was to post on any forum including this one, but both Sam and I did ????????

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Mine arrived been a long time coming need to study it before I comment ????
The first thing that has lept out is in Jane and Malcolm's "Club Message" is 1800 membership conversions to FG? What happened to other approx 4,000 club members?
And....
Ian
Why has my son's mag come to my address instead of his Sutton  Coldfield address, and why has my grandson's magazine not come to my address as entered on the database I supplied to your mailing house a number of weeks ago.
What is going on?...

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Trust Newsletter archive / Re: NEWS LETTER
« on: February 12, 2017, 09:59:04 AM »
Did the news letter seriously include what looks like a child's drawing of the proposed new hangar?

UKARSE having a field day with our lack of professionalism.  http://forums.airshows.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=67440&start=4925

What happened to the artist impression that was hanging around hangar 3 the week before last?


I could hardly believe my eyes! From a a supposedly "Professional" organisation , it was diabolically childish.
Who produced such an abomination.

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Engineering / Re: Extraordinary General Meeting Needed?
« on: January 30, 2017, 12:40:46 AM »
We always, always, check the intakes...
oooh, that made me wince...very cruel!  >:D

That's true we always do check the intakes

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Aviation Waffle / Re: USAF Looking At B-52 Engine Options
« on: February 16, 2015, 11:29:08 AM »
Very interesting article.

However would any engine manufacturer be prepared make the investment in 4 - 8 engines for just one aircraft?.

I honestly do not think so.
Why not they already lease engines to airlines why not the USAF?

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Engineering / Re: avionics fit
« on: January 19, 2015, 05:01:16 PM »
Are the ECM cans in with for ballast or did it leave the service with the ballast weights fitted?


ECM was removed early 1980s to accommodate the HDU during the tanker mod, when she was reconfigured to to look like a BMK2 in 1986 for the VDF, as has been said she carried the rearmost Bomb Bay Tank to counteract the loss of initially the ECM cans and latterly the HDU.
During the rebuild, 2005 onward, the tank was removed as was the H2S Scanner along with 11.5 tons of avionics gear which left her slightly tail heavy so a slab of red painted steel was mounted in the nose cavity we nicknamed it "Red Slab Radar". Certain black boxes in the nose undercarriage bay were also left in situ, as ballast to help re-balance a much lighter air-frame.

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