Show Posts

This section allows you to view all posts made by this member. Note that you can only see posts made in areas you currently have access to.

Messages - ascot5046

Pages: [1] 2 3
Ways To Raise Funding / Re: Comments on the new hangar plans!
« on: January 17, 2018, 10:26:43 PM »
Anyone know if Carillion were involved?

Engineering / Re: So that's it then?
« on: December 09, 2017, 02:04:40 PM »
Like Dee, I'm going to give my renewal for Founding Guardian a miss. 

I've already sent back the raffle tickets with a message "Due to being on a fixed income, I have donated the money to The Dogs Trust"

Engineering / Re: So that's it then?
« on: December 08, 2017, 03:59:37 PM »
Just scanned the article Smiler had posted the link for.

Someone has got their head up their arse if they think that The Red Arrows could co-exist on a commercial airfield.  They fly upwards of 5 sorties per day during the season work up and even if the display practices were held over another airfield, the circuit  access requirements for the Reds is incompatible with the scheduled commercial operation.

If anyone doubts that, just recall how impossible it has been to get 558 to have taxi runs, as promised to everyone when the decision to drop her on her last legs a few years ago. Not wishing to open any wounds here, but was the memory of a preventable double engine destruction on the active runway a contributory factor on this one?

Smoke and mirrors, or what we used to call in the IT sales sector, Vapourware

Engineering / Re: So that's it then?
« on: December 03, 2017, 11:18:37 PM »
I've done what I can only do and stopped funding from my fixed income.  I'm also sitting on my next Founding Guardian subscription to see how long before anyone notices.

When I informed Dr. Pleming that I was cancelling all funding, he did reply, thanked me for my previous support and asked if I would elaborate on why I cancelled.

I did.


So to quote an old service anacronym... he's NFI

Engineering / Re: How would you feel?
« on: September 07, 2017, 07:49:45 AM »
Seems to me that Sam would be a welcome addition to a group willing to engage the media about the state of things, unless he's had to sign the VTST version of the Official Secrets Act.

I don't think it's unreasonable to bring to public attention where things stand at this time, given the millions of squids they/we have given/raised.  The stated aim of the trust, post flying, is to preserve the aircraft for the people in a museum. Despite all the PR bluster, WHAT MUSEUM??????

Engineering / Re: How would you feel?
« on: September 05, 2017, 02:28:59 PM »
BBC Midlands Today are always asking for viewers to write in with stories they feel may be of general public interest.  I did email the Mail but didn't get a bite.

Any one of us could do this, but maybe an Open Letter criticising the trust for failing to uphold their duty to provide a museum after her flying life is over for the public to have access.  Maybe Club ex Co-Chairs would be willing to stand in front of the cameras??

I'm about to cancel the Flying Fund Draw entry in favour of a more deserving charity which ends all my financial contributions to XH558, apart from Founding Guardian, which may as well follow suit.

Engineering / Re: So that's it then?
« on: August 16, 2017, 04:15:27 PM »
Yes please, Eddie, or are you bound by some confidentiality clause?

We all deserve respect, our questions are simple and we don't believe a bean that is being churned out to us through the PR machine.

As a major sponsor, you should be asking the same questions, surely?

Engineering / Re: How would you feel?
« on: August 10, 2017, 07:49:57 AM »
Any measure would be better than the current situation. I can't afford to give any more money towards 558, but what is the reality of Sam's suggestion?

Assuming the US did buy her, lock stock and barrel, would the CAA ever give a 1-off permit to fly out of UK airspace?  Previous attempts by Mike Beechy Head to fly his Lightnings out were scuppered and they were dismantled and shipped to Capetown.

Right now, she should at least be displayed in a more prominent position on the airfield within sight of the public, even a "gate guard" would be a more fitting end to her life.

I think its time to place 558 back in the public domain, especially after the vast sums of money raised by said public.

Engineering / Re: So that's it then?
« on: August 09, 2017, 08:58:25 AM »
You'll be waiting a long time, probably until hell freezes over. "The Ministry of Broken Promises and PR Bullsh1t" are, as ever, unlikely to be open and honest given the dire result of their over inflated ambitions.

Engineering / Re: So that's it then?
« on: August 08, 2017, 07:57:14 AM »

Redundant or sacked makes no difference in reality, they are just the same words for meaning you guys were "C" stores to be tossed around and discarded when management couldn't afford to keep you on the payroll.  Last I knew was that none of the remaining trust members have designated themselves surplus to requirements and taken volunteer roles rather than salaries. I reckon that would change the vibe on this forum completely!

There's not very many of us left either posting or lurking, but, for argument's sake, what would happen if you took your bat and ball and buggered off completely leaving the trust without anyone "qualified" to bring the jet alive?  It seems they really have put all their eggs into one "Taff" basket.

Engineering / Re: So that's it then?
« on: August 07, 2017, 08:53:09 AM »
Re HLF, or a Whitewash?  Dr P et al seem to be covered in Teflon

Engineering / Re: So that's it then?
« on: August 07, 2017, 08:51:26 AM »
With literally hundreds of job cards to sign and then countersign, there may well be a stamp involved. I'm sure there would be a space for the actual oversigning engineer's signature or, maybe the signature is part of the stamp, which Sam seems to state.  It's a bit like the Quality Control [QC] stamp.  Any use of Sam's, or any other of the engineers' "stamps would simply be fraud.  As an ex RAF engineer, I would have insisted that the stamp was destroyed in my presence.

You don't want to imagine what could happen if something went catastrophically wrong during an engine ground run which left joe public and volunteers with loss of life or limb.  No insurance in the world would cover the compensation or litigation against the Trust and The Health and Safety Executive would drag the trustees through the courts under section 3 of the H&S Act.[Failure to ensure no harm to third parties].

On a much more positive note, see Funtera's thread on a recent visit to XM655 at Wellesbourne. Just off the M40 and relatively central England.  Invest your pennies in membership of MaPS and you can visit and go into the cockpit any Saturday. Or even get involved with their work on and off the jet. [It's actually free to visit and then for a small donation you can go into the cockpit as well, but you get the picture - you're getting something for your "buck"]

As I've said many times before, the guys and gals there do a brilliant job of keeping a Vulcan alive and kicking. More than can be said for the powers that be in Doncaster.  They are on a different planet

Engineering / Re: So that's it then?
« on: August 02, 2017, 11:31:04 PM »

As I said earlier, the team at Wellesbourne have achieved with so little money compared with what continues to be asked for to keep a similar non flying tin triangle in so called "fully operational and fit to fly" condition......why? Right now, there is no difference between the airframes as they are both permanently on the ground.  558's star status ended when her wheels finally hit the deck.

Does anyone out here in the real world believe that another [WK163] so-called legend will ever become airborne on joe public's bankroll?

If, and its a big IF, the powers that be had put a case forward to support the return to flight of AVRO Lancaster Just Jane NX611, you might have had far more grass roots favour. Oh and been a bit  more up front and honest with us supporters.

So where is the answer to the BIG question..why was the jet not flown into a Heritage  Museum like what it said in the objectives of the trust.

So many top dogs in denial. And the world's best known and last ever flying Vulcan has been consigned to a corner of a field. But remember MaPS!

Positivity - emperor's new clothes - politikspeak - you couldn't make it up.

Engineering / Re: So that's it then?
« on: August 02, 2017, 04:21:27 PM »
Maybe not, but we could bring to the attention of the media by an open letter from ex VTTS now FG's condemning the fact that the trust are failing in their stated aim to have retired the jet to a National Museum in perpetuity. 
What comeback, if any, can the Charities Commission invoke?

Wasn't FG status to include events specific to us?  Well and truly had then.

Should BBC East Midlands be made aware?

Engineering / Re: So that's it then?
« on: August 02, 2017, 12:02:23 PM »
There's very little more to do than withdraw any further financial support by cancelling my remaining direct debits & standing orders.

If Sam says there was a plan for keeping 558 flying, it's hard to see after the aircrew's review of the Prestwick undercarriage emergency. But, as when Concorde was axed, were they towing the "party line"?  There is no doubt that the Shoreham crash was a big spanner in the works.  The engineers have been treated like s*"t and not the first time either.  I seem to recall that during the restoration to flight, flipflopman was not a big supporter of the establishment, but please correct me if I'm out of line.

However, a reality check please.....

XM655 at Wellesbourne has been out in all weathers ever since she touched down in February 1984.  Despite years of neglect by the previous owner, MaPS are now doing a very good job of keeping the jet serviceable enough for fast taxi and ground running events.  So there is nothing to stop a similar group of volunteers taking 558 along the same route, other than the "Trustees" whoever they are now and, of course, the owners of RHAD who happen to be Peel Group.  This organisation also has connections with the Bridgwater Canal in the North West and Liverpool Docks.  Any narrowboat owners like myself will know that they have form in restricting pleasure cruising on their waters.

I had the pleasure of "working" with Sam, Ray, Taff et al when 558 was based at Brize.  I enjoyed the brief work in the hangar at Lyneham in a very cold and foggy winter!  I helped on the phone when pledges were needed and organised a fund raising gig with my band.  It wasn't as much as some of you guys out there but I felt I had done something. I couldn't get up to Doncaster to volunteer so have moved on.

We continue to be classed in the mushroom family - in the dark and fed on BS.  Like a bereavement, time will surely heal and we should all look back on the impossible dream that became a reality.  You can't take that away from Dr. Pleming.

Smile because it happened.


Pages: [1] 2 3