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Engineering / Re: So that's it then?
« on: December 13, 2017, 12:40:35 PM »
especially after the Trust blanking the Club Committee with regards to the final flight

Getting really tired of you perpetuating that lie Mike, and surprised no-one from committee has seen fit to correct it (which itself speaks volumes). For the record, EVERY member of committee was told by the Trust, in advance, of final flight date. At least one member was in hangar 3 before and after flight, as I've seen their photos. Far from blanked, committee were in an extremely select group to be aware of flight date, even some aircrew didn't know!

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Engineering / Re: So that's it then?
« on: June 23, 2017, 06:01:22 PM »
On a slightly different issue have the legal issues around life/ honorary members of the club been investigated? Do any such members need to explicitly agree to the club being dissolved and their life membership being terminated?

What legal issues? All Club members (including honorary etc) had the opportunity to vote. There was a massive majority for winding up the Club and joining the Trust's Guardian scheme, a handful of members can't have a veto on that decision. As far as I know they were in any case offered free membership of the Guardians.

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Aviation Waffle / Sad news from Shackleton WR963
« on: August 30, 2016, 12:24:26 PM »
Some of you may have seen the Facebook announcement a few days ago that all events relating to Shackleton WR963 at Coventry were cancelled until further notice. Seems that behind the scenes things were going downhill rapidly and the owner had to cancel all insurances on the aircraft to protect himself from liabilities the actions of some were apparently exposing him to. Full statement here, makes very sad reading:
https://www.facebook.com/avro.shackleton/posts/1857763107785440

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Aviation Waffle / Re: Vulcan in Canada
« on: June 19, 2016, 05:19:52 PM »
Hi Tom, Craig Bulman's book 'The Vulcan B.Mk2 From A Different Angle (2nd edition)' has a section on air shows attended by Vulcans. Not a complete list (as the author acknowledges), but it has some records of Canadian displays. As your airshow was at the National Exposition that would put it in mid Aug/early Sept. There isn't anything listed for 1975, but there are the following 1970's references for Toronto:
1972, 1-3 Sept, XM575 of 617 Sqn
1979, Aug (no exact date) XL317 of 617 Sqn.
There was however a Vulcan in Canada at around the right time in 1975, XL392 of 617 Sqn displayed at Abbotsford (near Vancouver) on 8-10 Aug. Guess it's possible that aircraft might also have gone to Toronto. Good luck with your search, I'm sure Craig would be interested if you find anything definitive.

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Aviation Waffle / Re: Spotted
« on: June 12, 2016, 06:42:48 PM »
Red Arrows just flew past heading north east, wingman put on smoke (red, blue then white), possibly for Bowden Hall Hotel, where they've stayed in the past over the RIAT weekend.

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Aviation Waffle / Re: Spotted
« on: June 06, 2016, 05:16:01 PM »
B52 over the house, on a direct bearing from Fairford, then started a long, slow turn, perhaps he forgot his sandwiches!

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Book / Film / TV Reviews / Re: James May: The Reassembler
« on: April 05, 2016, 01:33:02 PM »
I don't live in Bourmemouth, I do however fondly remember Jack Hargreave's TV show, How!

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Engineering / Re: Can she fly again....... yes according to this chap......
« on: December 21, 2015, 09:44:36 AM »
I have nothing to do with any of the things you list, so you obviously don't have a clue who I am, but I can't teach you anything about hectoring, boorish or disrespectful behaviour, you're managing very well all by yourself.

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Engineering / Re: Can she fly again....... yes according to this chap......
« on: December 20, 2015, 03:32:17 PM »
Perhaps Santa will be good enough to bring you a copy of the XH558 Farewell to Flight book, then you might begin to realise why lecturing me on what she represents, and what my priorities are, is so patronising and presumptive.

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Engineering / Re: Can she fly again....... yes according to this chap......
« on: December 20, 2015, 11:44:07 AM »
he's obviously a brave young man but not quite brave enough to put his name behind a £200M+ project of this nature.

So because he doesn't share your obsession, or perhaps considers your plucked out of thin air fantasy figure of £200 million could be better spent, he's branded not brave enough? Not just the article that's misguided then.

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Engineering / Re: The new 'Vulcan'
« on: December 10, 2015, 09:49:03 PM »
The Canberra should certainly tick boxes with the VTS, it's not in the complex category so hopefully the engineering team wouldn't need the support of external agencies in the same way they had to accept with 558, it's a Cold War jet (with two spare engines), doesn't need restoring and looks/sounds good on the show circuit, what's not to like? DLee, afraid her permit to fly expired this year, there may be some work to get that renewed depending on whether all the anti-dets have continued to schedule since Midair stopped flying her.

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Aviation Waffle / Re: Spotted
« on: November 17, 2015, 02:28:53 PM »
Pair of Apaches low over the roof, nice change from the usual traffic 'copters

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Trust Newsletter archive / Re: news letter
« on: November 05, 2015, 05:21:29 PM »
Click on PA28's name or icon to go to his profile and there's a 'send PM' link

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New Members Sign In Here / Re: Final Flight
« on: October 31, 2015, 12:03:39 PM »
I have said before that after modifications 2222,2429,2430 & 2221, XH558's airframe  was certified by AVRO  for many more hours of flight than the 346 hrs XH558 completed post restoration. Yet we keep being told that the trust would be 'flying into the unknown'.

That's because it would have been 'into the unknown'. Doesn't matter how many theoretical hours Avro certified, that was a long, long time ago and the one thing the Fatigue Test Specimen couldn't simulate or predict was the effect of age and corrosion on the airframe. The end has been forced on us sooner that most would like, but I understand the reasoning.

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Rolls Royce certified the Olympus for 2000 flying hours when they were overhauled..then inexplicably changed this to 1200 cycles that left the engines near their end of their working life after just a few hundred hours...

Not inexplicable at all. 2,000 hours were certified in RAF service, when the engines would have been straight back on an aircraft after overhaul. 558's engines had been in storage for over 20 years, scarcely any wonder RR were cautious, over cautious maybe but again understandable.

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Engineering / Re: Don't get sad get ANGRY!!!!
« on: October 14, 2015, 07:19:10 PM »
I think that the Government must step in and, for once, spend the public's money on something that the public values.  This will only happen if the Trust shows willing and engages with appropriate Ambassadors / Patrons - the type that doors open for!

Chris, why do you automatically assume the Trust hasn't shown willing? I suggest you look at the trustees, one of whom is Gerald Howarth MP (shadow defence minister 2002-2010). Another is Sir Donald Spiers, MoD Controller Aircraft 1989-94. Who do you suggest 'opens doors' if they, with their inside knowledge and contacts can't?.

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