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Trust Newsletter archive / Re: NEWS LETTER
« on: February 01, 2017, 09:05:34 AM »
£43k raised so far, the implication being that this amount will be matched by the philanthropists mentioned in the 18th Jan newsletter.  Is that right?  Which would make the end of Feb target almost met?  Or is that the matched amount which would be very different?  I wish things were made clearer.

And why is £200k needed by the end of March anyway, if the developers are funding the construction of the hanger, and VTTS will only start leasing it then?  I wish things were made clearer.

And just what does 'temporary storage facility' until the end of April mean?  I wish things were made clearer.

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Engineering / Re: OUR GREAT ENGINNERS
« on: January 28, 2017, 03:36:49 PM »
... get up on those wings and clean her!!!...

Much less sit in Martin Wither's seat and open the bomb-bay doors!

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Aviation Waffle / Re: Wellesbourne and XM655
« on: January 27, 2017, 11:14:29 AM »
The event is growing each year but the volunteer force isn't.

Not uncommon in the worlds of classics.  My local-ish MG group has announced this year's open (as opposed to just group members) MG Heritage run is to be the 25th and last because of the effects of passing time on the organisers.  Disappointingly on the same day as Wellesbourne last year, and we opted to do the run.  But ironically the route (unknown in advance) took us right past the airfield and we were treated to several fly-overs by a jet as we passed by.  Had I known of both these changes at the time we would have done Wellesbourne last year and the run this!  As it is we are doing the run this year anyway as we were on the first as well as a number of others.

As far as becoming a volunteer for MaPS goes, anyone interested should just turn up on a Saturday morning and have a chat with the people there.  That's apparently how most of them started.

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Aviation Waffle / Re: Wellesbourne and XM655
« on: January 26, 2017, 10:07:30 AM »
Sadly no Wings and Wheels for 2017 http://www.xm655.com/index.php

"In the post-Shoreham world, the amount of work required from our small volunteer organisation cannot be justified."

and

"Possible events for future years will be considered when we have a clearer view of the airfield’s availability."

Those two statements don't quite compute.


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Engineering / Re: Extraordinary General Meeting Needed?
« on: January 21, 2017, 01:55:03 PM »
You can moan all you like if it makes you feel better, but like all the bitching about ending her flying life it won't make one jot of difference.

They give arguments as to why Doncaster was chosen including "mainly related to the need to have a top-quality runway with emergency support so we can taxi XH558 regularly for her supporters."

XM655 does regular fast taxying at an airfield with minimal facilities and living out of doors.  Doncaster has significant disadvantages such as being booted out of house and home when commercial pressures take precedence as we have seen, probably very strict controls and potential penalties for fast taxying - imagine if there were a major problem on the runway and it couldn't immediately be moved.  But most importantly with the public road immediately adjacent to the full length of the runway and with far better views than anywhere the public are likely to be allowed inside the airport perimeter, just how many paying customers are they going to get?  They may well be regretting that decision, but I doubt they would admit it, and unless a one-off flight can be authorised (even assuming alternative proper accommodation can be arranged) they - and we! - are stuck with it.

They also mention needing somewhere to fly the Canberra from - eventually - but I can't see that needs a full commercial airport either.

"We always, always, check the intakes..."

That's just cruel ...  ::)

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Engineering / Re: hanger move
« on: January 21, 2017, 01:48:26 PM »
If you read the information it only talks about 'donations', not pledges.

They give arguments as to why Doncaster was chosen including "mainly related to the need to have a top-quality runway with emergency support so we can taxi XH558 regularly for her supporters."

XM655 does regular fast taxying at an airfield with minimal facilities and living out of doors.  Doncaster has significant disadvantages such as being booted out of house and home when commercial pressures take precedence as we have seen, probably very strict controls and potential penalties for fast taxying - imagine if there were a major problem on the runway and it couldn't immediately be moved.  But most importantly with the public road immediately adjacent to the full length of the runway and with far better views than anywhere the public are likely to be allowed inside the airport perimeter, just how many paying customers are they going to get?  They may well be regretting that decision, but I doubt they would admit it, and unless a one-off flight can be authorised (even assuming alternative proper accommodation can be arranged) they - and we! - are stuck with it.

They also mention needing somewhere to fly the Canberra from - eventually - but I can't see that needs a full commercial airport either.

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Engineering / Re: hanger move
« on: January 21, 2017, 09:19:51 AM »
Some Q&A here for those that haven't seen it http://www.vulcantothesky.org/faq-contact/survival-q-a.html

Still curiously vague as to where they will be: 'inside in a dry environment'.

On the question of cost of new hanger(s) "The developers are paying for the development on land already identified by the airport. Vulcan to the Sky Trust will be leasing it from the developers so we will not need to invest any supporters’ money in the building or the infrastructure."  But no indication as to whether this relates to the interim or ETNA hanger.

Of note is that 24% of the first £100,000 was raised in 24 hours.

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Engineering / Re: hanger move
« on: January 19, 2017, 09:06:05 AM »
What's more concerning is this mornings newsletter.  £200k needing to be raised over two months just to put her into storage and 'to survive' seems a huge amount to basically tow her and her bits and pieces from one hanger to another.  Are there debts that need paying off?

I'm also wondering just what the 'temporary storage facility' actually comprises.  It says 'A hangar is essential for protecting XH558 from the weather and providing an environment for maintenance to RAF standards.' and 'At the end of January, she will be towed out and placed under cover in storage' without saying just what that under cover storage actually comprises.  The word 'hanger' only seems to be applied to the present home, and a yet-to-be-built interim hanger.

The letter mentions the £200k includes 'costs associated with finalising plans for the new, purpose-built hangar' - is that the interim hanger?  Or the ETNA hanger?  What are the likely costs of building the interim hanger?  If the tours and events are to cease until the interim hanger is up and running will that hanger have to be funded totally through donations?

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Engineering / Re: New aircraft for the trust
« on: January 13, 2017, 11:35:31 AM »
It was a while ago, tricky to track it down again.  Seems odd to have removed all references before the new site was published though.

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Engineering / Re: New aircraft for the trust
« on: January 06, 2017, 02:56:14 PM »
What's the progress with WK163?the Trust seemed to have dropped all communication about her since she's been moved out

Moved out?

My daughter has seen somewhere that the Trust have dropped the share certificates for WK163, and people who have bought them are moaning and want their money back.  I can't find any reference to that, but then I can't find any reference to them at all, and it took some effort to find links to any WK163 page.

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Aviation Waffle / Re: Wellesbourne and XM655
« on: December 13, 2016, 11:23:44 AM »
Hopefully enough to secure its future.  If you haven't visited 655, I recommend you do, even if it would mean a significant journey.  On Saturdays (maybe less so in the depths of winter) there are volunteers on site who will take you round including into the crew area, and if you are reaaally lucky well-behaved children may get to sit up front.

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Engineering / Re: Engineering insights
« on: November 16, 2016, 11:11:51 AM »
Sad to hear, I spent most of a day with Ray earlier this year as a Vulcan Assistant, a great experience.

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Engineering / Re: New aircraft for the trust
« on: October 29, 2016, 11:20:14 AM »
Similar sentiments here, although I can't agree with the 'sour taste' of the final flight, it was always blindingly obvious that to publicise it would have caused mayhem around Doncaster airport.

My wife was passionate about 558, but even having seen a Canberra fly she just wasn't interested, and several times has said they would do better to get another Lancaster back in the air.  I could see the attraction of WK163 from its historic perspective and it being a 2-seater, but support to achieve the same as for 558 was really never really going to happen.

The third video in the email newsletter is mainly an edit of the final year of flying and glorious, the final of the trial fast taxy (taxi if you wish) just emphasises what we have lost.  There may well be more interest when she does public fast taxys next year, but unless they block off 'Dogger's Lane' I can't see them making much money out of it.  The mound gives a far better view than any viewing point on the airfield will, and all future public events are really only likely to attract useful numbers of people from a relatively small geographical area.

And speaking of 'finals', with the fall-out from Shoreham will we even see a Vampire, Venom and Sea Vixen fly together again?

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Engineering / Re: New aircraft for the trust
« on: October 24, 2016, 08:31:40 AM »
Shares closed at the beginning of this month.  Since then the focus has been on the last flights of XH558, which seems fair enough.

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Aviation Waffle / Re: Sad news from Shackleton WR963
« on: October 06, 2016, 09:08:40 AM »

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