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Engineering / Re: So that's it then?
« on: February 19, 2018, 11:06:00 PM »
It changed back to the original title after I had posted...

So sad the way this has ended.  The "celebration" at Bruntingthorpe looks like nothing more than an elaborate piss take and another way to raise money for the wage bill.  I see there is now yet another "limited" opportunity to get your name on the wing, I guess these will carry on until 558 is completely covered with sticky back plastic  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

At least the plastic will keep the rain out of the joints Sam !!

Mike

Sadly not.  the way the stickers have been applied there is a far better chance that water will sit in the joints between the skins and the mag alloy stringer will rot even faster.

If you want to know what the result of that will be cast your mind back to the Bruntingthorpe major and the skins being peeled back to replace the stringers above the undercarriage bays.

I have also heard that there were some problems getting the first batch of stickers to stick - so the solution was to drill a few holes in the skin and attach the stickers using screws and penny washers.  If this turns out to be more than a rumor.....

Of course that will not happen now as there is no intention of using 558 as anything more than an expensive backdrop for parties and a fundraising machine to pay the executive wage bill...

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Aviation Waffle / Re: Douglas C54 Skymaster at North Weald
« on: February 18, 2018, 06:41:10 PM »
We have launched another appeal on the just giving web site (via facebook) 

The target is to raise £2000 to pay for engine strip down and inspection.

So far we have raised £100.00

https://www.justgiving.com/crowdfunding/c54skymaster56498engineinspections?utm_id=107&utm_term=BAa3dPkDR

The first engine will be in the workshop next week and Weald are prepared to start work if we give them 10% of the inspection fee (£180)

I shall pay the deposit (I've also contributed the £100 donation)

It would be nice if a few more people could chip in as sadly I don't have the money to pay for the work myself...

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Engineering / Re: So that's it then?
« on: February 16, 2018, 12:33:36 PM »
It changed back to the original title after I had posted...

So sad the way this has ended.  The "celebration" at Bruntingthorpe looks like nothing more than an elaborate piss take and another way to raise money for the wage bill.  I see there is now yet another "limited" opportunity to get your name on the wing, I guess these will carry on until 558 is completely covered with sticky back plastic  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

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Engineering / Re: So that's it then?
« on: February 14, 2018, 12:33:36 PM »
Interesting that this thread has now been re-named from "so that's it then?" "Aircrew interview".

Well done Bill for keeping the memory alive but I think that there is something slightly dodgy going on here.

The trust would love to see anything negative disappear and renaming a thread with 19 pages of negative feedback would seem to be a good place to start...

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Ways To Raise Funding / Re: Comments on the new hangar plans!
« on: January 18, 2018, 09:23:55 PM »
 ;D ;D ;D

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Ways To Raise Funding / Re: Comments on the new hangar plans!
« on: January 13, 2018, 08:28:26 PM »
Interesting article...

So we finally know the names of the "Specialist Consultants" who have carried out the work for the trust (which we were initially told was carried out last year)  Not being picky but looking at the websites of those companies there is no mention of any aviation related projects.  I know there is not a lot of development going on in the industry at the moment but surely the trust could have tied in with someone with experience in this field.  Still they have built lots of shops and student accommodation so that should be ok.

Nice to see that Dave Dixon of the RG group appreciates the appeal 558 had across the country - wonder if the trust will try and re-engage with that level of support (now they need to raise £3m)...

On the subject of £3million - where did the extra £200k come from as I'm sure in the summer the cost was £280k (I guess that will be the wage bill for the next year)

Nice to know the well tested business plan will enable the new building to open in the spring of 2019 (as opposed to spring 2018 as promised in February 2017)  There may well be over 6 million people living within one hour of driving but how many of them will want to go to a party in a sewage farm?

I think the trusts best bet is if one of their long term supporters decides they have put so much in so far they may as well pay for a permanent home for 558.  They may get lucky and get a few big legacies come in - that should help with the wage bill at least.

Once the hangar is built they can get on with the plan to get 163 back in the air (but from experience they are more likely to start planning a series of parties and benefit concerts) probably won't bother though as there is no mention of 163 apart from a vague mention of utilizing examples of Britain’s valuable aeronautical and engineering achievements.

I know it's only an artists impression (which I first saw on a laptop in hangar 3 a year ago - have they no more up to date stuff?) but where do they intend to park 163 and the Swift?  Still no sign of the stores or workshops.

Yes I'm bitter.  It seems to me that nothing had been done until we were all laid off - and what has been done has occurred at a snails pace.  The supporters have been kept in the dark and only now is there any information coming to light.  I guess the next thing will be the appeal for funds (bet there will be no threat to lay off the remaining staff unless they can raise the funds)  Think I need to contact the bank to increase my monthly standing order...


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Aviation Waffle / Re: Douglas C54 Skymaster at North Weald
« on: December 26, 2017, 03:33:51 PM »
Thanks Dee, Yes now we have the registration sorted and we have an FAA licence engineer on-board we can make a start on the engineering (FAA regs stipulate we need an authorized mechanic to work on a FAA registered airframe)

As you said every little helps.

Happy New year.

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Aviation Waffle / Re: Douglas C54 Skymaster at North Weald
« on: December 25, 2017, 10:31:21 PM »
Merry Christmas Everybody.

Our website is now up and running  ;D

https://www.savetheskymaster.org/

Fairly basic at the moment with an overview of the project, a few pictures, our very nice promotional video and a membership form.

Very soon (once we get payment methods sorted out) we will get a webstore sorted - it's quite frustrating to be sitting on over £10k of stock and not having a way to sell it!

There will also be some history pages detailing the aircraft's life in the U.S. Navy and Marines.

We've been busy over the last month.  We now have a container at North Weald so we have somewhere to store the stock and ground equipment.  We moved all the stock from Milton Keynes and Swansea.

In the last week we have managed to complete the paperwork to transfer the registration to the society.

Our current fundraising campaign has now reached £160 with a bit of luck it will gain a bit more momentum after Christmas.

In the New Year the plan is to get the "Spare" engine out of the cabin and get it into Weald Aviations workshop, they will strip it and assess weather it can be returned to service.  We now have a quote from them for the rebuild of our six engines so we need to start raising some funds to pay for that work - the assessment of the "Spare" along with an external survey of the four fitted engines will cost us £1,900.

There is an open air market held at North Weald on Saturday and Bank Holiday Mondays and we plan to run a stall there as an outlet for our stock and to help raise awareness of the project.

There should be another news letter out at the end of January.

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Engineering / Re: How would you feel?
« on: December 15, 2017, 10:29:55 PM »
Sorry Bill, I'm on the wrong side of the country now.

I've been staying away as it seems some of my comments have not been well received by some people I have great respect for.

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Engineering / Re: So that's it then?
« on: December 15, 2017, 10:27:12 PM »
So they will let us know result of the application.

How long before the begging bowl comes out as I understand they have no interest whatsoever from any backers.

Reading between the lines of the link that Taff posted I think that the local authorities and education establishments like the idea of the "ETNA" project - but I think they just don't want the trust involved.

Reading the founding guardians magazine the impression I get is that is there is no plan to carry out the restoration of 163.  The new hangar has space for parties, events, meetings and a shop - but no space for workshops or any engineering.  The articles talk about volunteers carrying out the work - well good luck to them and well done but I wonder where this new group of engineering type volunteers is going to come from.

The only hope I see for 558 finding a roof over her head is for a single benefactor paying for it.  The airport will be happy for the hangar to be built but if the trust are not careful they will end up out on their ear again as soon as someone with money offers to take the space on.

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Engineering / Re: So that's it then?
« on: December 13, 2017, 10:26:04 PM »
especially after the Trust blanking the Club Committee with regards to the final flight

Getting really tired of you perpetuating that lie Mike, and surprised no-one from committee has seen fit to correct it (which itself speaks volumes). For the record, EVERY member of committee was told by the Trust, in advance, of final flight date. At least one member was in hangar 3 before and after flight, as I've seen their photos. Far from blanked, committee were in an extremely select group to be aware of flight date, even some aircrew didn't know!
Only repeating what some members of the committee have told me,as you say no one has seen fit to correct  my and others comments !

Mike

The committee may well have been aware of the date of the flight but they were certainly not welcome.

After we had put 558 away I got a phone call from Jane Thomas.  She had come to the hangar to say goodbye to 558 - The trust management would not even let her into the hangar and she was upstairs looking at 558 from the corridor overlooking the hangar floor....

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Aviation Waffle / Re: Douglas C54 Skymaster at North Weald
« on: November 28, 2017, 11:29:28 PM »
Thank you Dee, your support is much appreciated.

We are up and running - Berlin here we come!

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Aviation Waffle / Re: Douglas C54 Skymaster at North Weald
« on: November 28, 2017, 11:16:04 AM »
We could do with a few people donating and sharing the links to get the ball rolling or 498 will end up just sitting there thinking about what might have been!

 https://www.justgiving.com/crowdfunding/c-54skymaster

https://www.facebook.com/search/top/?q=save%20the%20skymaster

https://www.facebook.com/BerlinAirlift70/

I have spoken to my partner in crime today and the Skymaster registration should be transferred to the society this week.

We hope the website will be up and running this weekend as well.

A lot of work has been going on behind the scenes - now there should be some visible progress.

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Aviation Waffle / Re: Douglas C54 Skymaster at North Weald
« on: November 27, 2017, 05:56:19 PM »
Sorry to repeat myself but the Website is still not up and running which is a shame.  Our main presence for the moment is still the Farcebook page  https://www.facebook.com/search/top/?q=save%20the%20skymaster

We had another good show at Scampton, once again we covered our costs and met lots more people who were interested in what we were about.  The pitch was a bit better though still a bit out of the way.  Lots of Vulcan people came by and we were helped out by Sean and Jack - much appreciated.  We have also had a couple of open days over at North Weald which have been very successful.  We will be having another one at North Weald next weekend.

We have launched another just giving page, this time for £10,000 which will pay for ground equipment to replace the main and nosewheel, a container to hold the merchandising stock, ground equipment and spares from Canada and a partial inspection of the engines by Weald Aviation - who we hope will be overhauling all six of our engines.  Read more on the just giving page here:- https://www.justgiving.com/crowdfunding/c-54skymaster

We have been invited to attend an event in Berlin in June 2019!  https://www.facebook.com/BerlinAirlift70/  The target is to fly next year and it will be great to be part of this great commemoration.

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Engineering / Re: How would you feel?
« on: September 11, 2017, 08:44:34 PM »
I think We upset him by ridiculing his latest scheme to cover 558 in stickers in order to keep 10 people in a job!

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