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Engineering / Re: So that's it then?
« on: August 09, 2017, 10:50:02 AM »
I will pass on the thought of the thread though.


Can you ask them for some answers to Mikes questions - pretty please???

Engineering / Re: So that's it then?
« on: August 09, 2017, 08:37:14 AM »
A few questions.

1.Why was the Club Committee excluded from the final flight ?
2.Who is currently employed or receiving remuneration of any sort from Trust funds ?
3.How much is the current wage bill including expenses and retainer fees etc ?
4.How cost effective are the current batch of Air Show attendances by the Trust Trailer after deducting costs ?
5.What are the current cash reserves of the Trust ?



Very valid questions Mike - I wonder if they'll get answered today? Or ever?

Waiting with baited breath............................. ::)

Engineering / Re: So that's it then?
« on: August 08, 2017, 11:01:12 AM »
I would pay money to assist in this outcome as would many others who have withdrawn financial support since the final flight debacle !


Ditto what Mike says................

I for one would put in as much time, effort and money as I could and I'm sure loads of other followers of 558 would if there was a chance of getting her out of the cesspit the Trust have dumped her in.

I am past it with listening to anything the Trust have to say, they just write anything they want in the newsletters and expect us to believe it (sadly some people do and cough up yet more cash for the bottomless pit).

The current situation is appalling with 558 and the Canberra dumped outside whilst the Trust are still taking a wage - why are they still on the payroll??
655, 426, the People's Mosquito, the Skymaster - all run by volunteers not taking a penny for themselves!! All monies go to the aircraft and not to line someone's pocket!!

Someone should be made accountable for where all the money has gone and why she's parked outside hidden away and getting soaked.

So, as Mike says, could there be any chance of getting her out of there to somewhere that the 'People' would be allowed to see and support her again??

Aviation Waffle / Re: Spotted
« on: August 07, 2017, 09:58:18 AM »
2 F15's beating the sky up over York!!!!!!  ;D

Engineering / Re: So that's it then?
« on: August 07, 2017, 09:28:44 AM »
I thank you for you coment Mike,  I am sorry for new, but follow sometime.  I hope not problem.  I as well follow site "UKAR". It and me will laugh out loud. You as well?

I think "Sad Sam", some story to tell - yes?

I no wish to offend, is not welcome here?

I'm no expert, but is it really just a "stamp" that certifies work on aircraft?

I thought there must be more oversight than that, I hope there is - otherwise I might have to rethink the idea of the first holiday abroad in ages!

Surely, aircraft workers have to be supervised by a competent person.  That competent person, surely has to be authorised by an authorising body, who is regulated by the CAA?  Please tell me that someone can't just "forge" signatures and use someone else's stamp :-[

Or was was just a weekends worth of beer talking, because that seems quite a serious accusation?

Blimey Paramania!! Don't mean to offend either but this is only your fifth post and it's astounding how your use of English grammar has improved over your previous posts...........................!!

Engineering / Re: So that's it then?
« on: August 07, 2017, 08:50:37 AM »
Just seen someone has posted this on Farcebook:-

"I have been in touch with the HLF.

They have been in discussions with VTTS, and are planning to visit VTTS very soon to discuss the current situation."

Could be interesting..............?

Engineering / Re: So that's it then?
« on: August 02, 2017, 06:44:52 PM »
What is the Trust trying to do as clearly laid out in all the newsletters since February?

And they clearly said in previous newsletters that 558 would fast taxi......................

A bit more positivity on this site would not go amiss. (Personal opinion..)     

Having a jest??? What on earth is there to be positive about?? Gimme a clue!!!!!!

Engineering / Re: So that's it then?
« on: August 02, 2017, 09:32:48 AM »
I have been over to RHA today and she is hidden away in front of the sewage farm and next to the tanker pool,very difficult to see from anywhere accessible to the public

Thanks for the update Mike

I honestly don't know where to start - or express the total disgust, dismay, anger and sadness I'm feeling at the way this is all ending. It's like watching a slow, painful, lingering death.............

So many people put so much into 558 that they should have had a say in where she was retired to and NOT THIS! She should be accessible to ALL!!!!!

What happened to the 'Peoples Plane'? Would the 'People' have dumped her in the middle of a sewerage farm out of sight of all the 'People' who have donated so much money and time during her restoration and flying years? Absolutely disgraceful!!!!!  >:( >:( >:(

On the front page of the VTTS it states 'XH558 ceased flying in October 2015, but that is now the beginning of a new EXCITING chapter in her story' - give me strength!!!!!! In the middle of sewerage farm!!!!!!!

Also it still states 'HONOURING THE PAST, INSPIRING THE FUTURE' - How does that work now? Neither statement is true!!!!!!


How can the Trust inspire future engineers when they saw right to get rid of the engineers they had? Why do the Trust need so many paid staff now? What happened to the taxi runs we were told would happen? Why have they let it come to this? Why can't they be straight with us and tell us what's REALLY going on? Plus so many other questions that will never be answered.......

And why have they dumped 558 in the middle of a sh1t farm for pitys sake?  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

Rant over for now but very liable to flare up at a moments notice..........

Engineering / Re: So that's it then?
« on: July 30, 2017, 09:44:41 AM »
Hello Taff!! PM sent and thankyou for keeping our Graffiti, it does mean a lot to me and Jacqui!! xx

Ditto what Dee says Taff!!!

Thanks for keeping our little bit of scribble on 558, I can't describe how much it means to my fellow Scrubber and I!!! ;D

We both love and miss the old girl, we had some wonderful times in the hanger and memories that no one can take from us  ;)

And we still can't thank all the engineers enough for making those memories happen  :) :) :)

X x x

Aviation Waffle / Re: Spotted
« on: July 13, 2017, 04:56:12 PM »
Raptor, Tonkas, Tiffies, Osprey, Eagles, F16s, F5s, Merlin, Blackhawk, Gripen, Hurricane, Hercybird, Grizzley, Tucano, Several small prop things, King Air, Hawks, couple of Red Kites and a Buzzard, JP, Strikemaster, SU27s, IL76, Wokka, Thunderbirds, lots of undetermined Choppers, Alpha Jet, SIAI-Marchetti, DRAGON LADY WOOHOOO!!!! And a Jane and a Malcolm!!!! ????

Aviation Waffle / Re: Spotted
« on: June 27, 2017, 08:43:29 PM »
Sat on the balcony in Kefalonia - 2 fighter jets tearing the sky up!!! Bloody awesome or what??!! ????????????????????????????

Engineering / Re: Goodbye to the Engineers
« on: February 25, 2017, 09:24:22 AM »
To me and Jax you are an absolute star..So glad things are looking better for you Sam xx

Ditto what Dee says Sam!! Can't thank you enough for our escapades climbing all over 558 - we've been well privileged!  ;)

Glad to see you're keeping your pecker up!  8) xxxxxxxxxxx

Engineering / Re: Goodbye to the Engineers
« on: February 14, 2017, 01:27:50 PM »
Well said Mike!

Such a sad ending to what has been one hell of a ride......................

I'll add my heartfelt THANK YOU to all the wonderful engineers, without whom 558 would not have flown. And if she hadn't flown I wouldn't have met such a bunch of lovely people and made so many good friends.

And special thanks to Sam for all he's done for we meagre volunteers arranging such privileged access to the aircraft for us. Many of us have had unbelievable and unforgettable experiences on our cleaning escapades, no more so than Dee and I - Vulcan Scrubbers and damn proud of it! Thank you again Sam!

And thanks again to all the engineers for making us so, so welcome in the hanger.
Will miss you all and hope the future is good to you.

It's been a blast...................

Big, BIG hugs


x x x x x x x

Engineering / Re: Extraordinary General Meeting Needed?
« on: January 20, 2017, 09:59:25 AM »
Brilliantly said Rick!
Something needs to be done, we can't just walk away from 558 now.
Any suggestions of what we might be able to do would be appreciated.

Engineering / Re: hanger move
« on: January 19, 2017, 09:08:18 PM »
So many questions that we all want answered, but very doubtful that any will get asked or replied to..
Sad, devastated for those that have lost their jobs after so faithfully looking after her..
To be honest it bloody STINKS!!!

Well said Dee!!!!
Wonder if the Trust would be available for a question and answer session?? And would they tell us the truth?? I think not but they would still ask for our cash to pay their wages..............
Totally gutted for 558 and for the lads who lovingly looked after her so we could be privileged to see her grace our skies time and time again.
This is NOT the right retirement home for the old girl - we need to be proactive and do what we can to get her out of there. If anyone has any ideas or thoughts of who we need to approach or what we can do to help the old girl please feel free to pm myself or Dee.
558 has been a massive part of my life, given me so much joy and so many lovely new friends that I feel I must try to help her retire where she is wanted and accessible to all........

Rant over - gutted, pi$$ed off, emotional, angry and so, so sad at how this is all ending

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