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Re: Tank issues
« Reply #30 on: August 16, 2011, 07:04:24 PM »
All the very best guys hope things go well.  Seem to remember from recent HSE course that the two ways of going into a tank are venting and using full BA having been trained and certified in its use.  I know which one I'd prefer!!  Now where did I put that bicycle puncture repair kit???
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Re: Tank issues
« Reply #31 on: August 16, 2011, 08:49:24 PM »
Good luck to all involved with getting her back in the air soonest and much appreciation for the not inconsiderable efforts that are now being made to achieve that. Fingers crossed for Dunsfold.
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Re: Tank issues
« Reply #32 on: August 16, 2011, 08:54:50 PM »
Gutted that 558 can't fly at this years Bournemouth Air Festival. She will be sorely missed by a lot of people down on the south coast. :cry:

The Engineers now have a big job to do...  but they will get it sorted  :)

Revenue may be lost over the comming few weeks - but the safety of the aircraft is paramount to keep her flying. 558 is entitled to throw the odd 'wobbly'  - pity it had to be at potentially her biggest public display so far this year.

Best wishes to the Engineers over the next week or so.
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Re: Tank issues
« Reply #33 on: August 16, 2011, 08:55:22 PM »
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Here is a question (which may be totally stupid due to ignorance etc), but can 558 fly on wing tanks only or will that affect the c of g and handling.  :?

the vulcan could fly missing out number 2 tanks but all fuel management would have to be manual to keep the cofg in check
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Re: Tank issues
« Reply #34 on: August 16, 2011, 09:05:18 PM »
I'm gutted two as was off to Dawlish, But in the big scheme of things the reliability this year has been fantastic and a credit to the ground crew.

Keep smiling all. PS Sam If you need a skiny bloke to get in the tank you have my number!!
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Re: Tank issues
« Reply #35 on: August 16, 2011, 09:09:50 PM »
Just a real shame it's happened just when they had six displays to do!  :(

I've read elsewhere the Sea Vixen may step in; don't know how true that is but it'd be nice if it happens.
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Re: Tank issues
« Reply #36 on: August 16, 2011, 09:16:24 PM »
The Vulcan could fly missing out number 2 tanks but all fuel management would have to be manual to keep the C of G in check

From Bovril

I know exactly what you mean but................

It's a snag, and it needs to be fixed.  We can't fly without a fully serviceable aircraft.


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Re: Tank issues
« Reply #37 on: August 16, 2011, 09:21:00 PM »
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The Vulcan could fly missing out number 2 tanks but all fuel management would have to be manual to keep the C of G in check

From Bovril

I know exactly what you mean but................

It's a snag, and it needs to be fixed.  We can't fly without a fully serviceable aircraft.


Oberon

i know :) was just answering the q , but maybe i should have added you line too

hope it turns out to be a simple one to repair
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Re: Tank issues
« Reply #38 on: August 16, 2011, 09:25:31 PM »
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The Vulcan could fly missing out number 2 tanks but all fuel management would have to be manual to keep the C of G in check

From Bovril

I know exactly what you mean but................

It's a snag, and it needs to be fixed.  We can't fly without a fully serviceable aircraft.


Oberon
Whatever happened to the good old F700 Lim Log ?

Ah well,the heady days of RAF service and limitations are long gone as is crawling into a smelly fuel tank without the need to check for LEL ! (I know because I have done it)

Elf & Safety  rules OK !

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Re: Tank issues
« Reply #39 on: August 16, 2011, 09:38:38 PM »
Another dumb Q from ex RAF Plod with a dog...

Were Vulcans 'in service' prone to fuel leaks. I never saw a any fuel leaks during my days under these Gentle Giants. Lightnings leaked like a sieve.
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Re: Tank issues
« Reply #40 on: August 16, 2011, 09:58:00 PM »
Quote from: "Oberon"
The Vulcan could fly missing out number 2 tanks but all fuel management would have to be manual to keep the C of G in check

From Bovril

I know exactly what you mean but................

It's a snag, and it needs to be fixed.  We can't fly without a fully serviceable aircraft.


Oberon

I was not in any way implying that 558 should do the displays when she is not 100%, it was just a general  question to satisfy my own curiosity. ;)

Its gratifying to know that we have the best group of engineers there is looking after out graceful lady.......... :D
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Re: Tank issues
« Reply #41 on: August 16, 2011, 11:00:59 PM »
Quote from: "StAthan lecky"

Ah well,the heady days of RAF service and limitations are long gone as is crawling into a smelly fuel tank without the need to check for LEL ! (I know because I have done it)

Elf & Safety  rules OK !

Me too, it makes me shudder when I think of the things we used to get up to in Nimrod and Buccaneer tanks at Woodford. I was always getting sent into damp smelly tanks, often without BA to scrape old thiokol off, clean up with MEK, plaster with even more thiokol. Leak detection was a special skill, especially on tanks that weren't bag tanks. Fuel could escape quite a distance away from the source of the leak inside the tank. There was one Buccaneer -  XW546 that was in the factory at Woodford for nearly 4 years whilst I and many other engineers attempted to fix a nasty fuel leak that was coming out of the wing spar, the source was never found during my time there. I believe it went back into service with the leak still occurring.
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Re: Tank issues
« Reply #42 on: August 17, 2011, 09:31:19 AM »
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Just a real shame it's happened just when they had six displays to do!  :(

I've read elsewhere the Sea Vixen may step in; don't know how true that is but it'd be nice if it happens.

The Sea Vixen is no longer at Dunsfold so I fear that is out of service too.
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Re: Tank issues
« Reply #43 on: August 17, 2011, 09:46:35 AM »
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Just a real shame it's happened just when they had six displays to do!  :(

I've read elsewhere the Sea Vixen may step in; don't know how true that is but it'd be nice if it happens.

The Sea Vixen is no longer at Dunsfold so I fear that is out of service too.
The Sea Vixen never was booked for Dunsfold but it is serviceable as I've seen both Oxford and Shoreham have got it to replace 558 this weekend.
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Re: Tank issues
« Reply #44 on: August 17, 2011, 10:25:16 AM »
That's my weekend wrecked! :(  :(  :(

Never mind!

Good luck lads!

I hope you sort her out soon!
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