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Re: The Vulcan 'smell'
« Reply #15 on: September 18, 2013, 09:53:45 PM »
Funny that, like other comments I have had a few people come up into the cockpit of XM569 (which Joe Eagle770 knows very well) and say "That Vulcan smell is unmistakeable".

XM569 has not fared well over the years and we are cleaning up a lot of the oxidisation around instruments etc. but water gathers in the bottom and in the bomb aimers window.
This morning I drilled a few more holes around the window and managed to get all of the crud cleaned out so it can drain away.

Mention of the UHF antenna, which is missing from XM569, is interesting. There's a large hole, bigger than the thickness of your thumb, and that seems to be completely open, possibly for cable entry I guess. before realising it was an open hole I stuck my drill into it and got absolutely soaked when gallons of water poured out!!!!!

I've heard a story of a bladder being split and the wee freezing in the concave part of the hatch. Defrosting during the descent meant that the ground crew chief got the lot when he opened the hatch!

I was asked, by a lady, the other day "Where are the loos?" - I replied that "This is a man's war machine, no loos on board just every crew 'member' has their own individual chrome funnel", I used the word 'member' advisedly!

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Re: The Vulcan 'smell'
« Reply #16 on: September 18, 2013, 09:56:36 PM »
Ah, those old Strowger telephone switches, what memories that invokes!

And not only telephone. The first 'computer' system I worked on was the Message Switching ATS102 STRAD installed at RAF Boddington in 1953 when it was Royal Signals. It was electromechanical, strowger, and was great fun to be a controller on.
It filled a room about 50' x 20' and was replaced by the ITT ADX6400 which was the size of a wardrobe!
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Re: The Vulcan 'smell'
« Reply #17 on: September 18, 2013, 09:59:38 PM »
Visited XH537 cockpit at BAM the other week with Mags and Bryan, and as I got to the ladder I took a deep breath, wonderful.
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Re: The Vulcan 'smell'
« Reply #18 on: October 04, 2013, 08:57:02 PM »
Ah, that Bomb Aimer's blister!!!  :-\

Early into the restoration, one of the inspection tasks I was carrying out was looking for corrosion around the UHF antenna baseplate on the blister. As expected, as the baseplate was removed, I was greeted by what looked like the white cliffs of Dover, as a sheet of crumbling chalk appeared where there should have been 16 gauge Aluminium!!  :))

The repair area got larger and larger as the corrosion was removed until we were left with a patch the size of a dustbin lid. As has been alluded to, this was mainly down to the 'fluids' that had accumulated down there over the years. I don't think I would be exaggerating to say that it smelt worse than a public toilet, as we set about removing the inches of sealant down there, along with the 30 years of accumulated excreta!!  ;D

I agree that the the Vulcan has a certain and unique smell....... but what lives down in that blister is certainly not it!!


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Re: The Vulcan 'smell'
« Reply #19 on: October 04, 2013, 11:57:04 PM »
Love it when you post on here Ron. We need your wisdom and knowledge on here please ;D
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Re: The Vulcan 'smell'
« Reply #20 on: October 05, 2013, 12:14:45 AM »
I haven't looked on here for a good old while Jane, I'm doing my best to catch up!  :))

Plus, it's very rare I can add too much nowadays! All my stuff is as old as the hills!!  ;D ;D


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Re: The Vulcan 'smell'
« Reply #21 on: October 05, 2013, 10:53:27 AM »
It may be old but its very welcome too ;D
558's not new either and you have lots of memories and info about her and other aircraft that will interest members on here.
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Re: The Vulcan 'smell'
« Reply #22 on: October 05, 2013, 09:16:31 PM »
Love it when you post on here Ron. We need your wisdom and knowledge on here please ;D

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Re: The Vulcan 'smell'
« Reply #23 on: October 07, 2013, 12:14:10 PM »
The most important thing to do before using the 'facilities' was to check the bung in the bottom, I had a capain who didn't and he filled his hat which was tucked under the seat as usual  >:D  Personally, never had cause to use the system in flight so didn't provide that sort of contribution  C:-)
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Re: The Vulcan 'smell'
« Reply #24 on: October 08, 2013, 09:11:42 AM »
Ah, that Bomb Aimer's blister!!!  :-\

Early into the restoration, one of the inspection tasks I was carrying out was looking for corrosion around the UHF antenna baseplate on the blister. As expected, as the baseplate was removed, I was greeted by what looked like the white cliffs of Dover, as a sheet of crumbling chalk appeared where there should have been 16 gauge Aluminium!!  :))

The repair area got larger and larger as the corrosion was removed until we were left with a patch the size of a dustbin lid. As has been alluded to, this was mainly down to the 'fluids' that had accumulated down there over the years. I don't think I would be exaggerating to say that it smelt worse than a public toilet, as we set about removing the inches of sealant down there, along with the 30 years of accumulated excreta!!  ;D

I agree that the the Vulcan has a certain and unique smell....... but what lives down in that blister is certainly not it!!


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Oh! so when I tried to drill that hole where the antenna should be located, it about the size of a 10p piece, I found that it was already a hole and I got my arm covered in grey water that gushed out. I now think it wasn't just rust coloured water but mixed with some ancient effluent as well!
Thanks for the information, I would have rather stayed ignorant I think  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D
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