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Engine swap
« on: November 01, 2011, 08:25:24 PM »
Was reading the latest newsbytes and wondering if these two 'low timed' engines that are being put in are the two that were removed previously?

And if they are does that mean we have the full quota of eight usable engines again?
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Re: Engine swap
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2011, 11:12:37 PM »
I'm not entirely sure, but unless anything's changed recently, I thought that there were actually six engines that were deemed fit to use, with two of the others needing a little tlc before they could be passed as fit.  This may well have happened now, so these might me the units going in.  Perhaps the swap is to balance the two oldest ones, as I'm pretty sure two were changed some while after the first post-restoration flight.  Of course, I could very well be talking utter bollards as usual.  I'm sure that Sam or Taff will confirm if they have a minute.

So, did anyone else sponsor the swap today?
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Re: Engine swap
« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2011, 08:31:21 AM »
Quote from: "speedy"
I'm not entirely sure, but unless anything's changed recently, I thought that there were actually six engines that were deemed fit to use, with two of the others needing a little tlc before they could be passed as fit.  This may well have happened now, so these might me the units going in.
That's what I'm asking lol.

AFAIK the other two usable engines were still zero timed, but as newsbytes said 'low timed' I wondered if this meant the two that have been previously used but were swapped out after a short time.
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Re: Engine swap
« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2011, 01:15:38 PM »
At the Members' Day on Saturday, Dr. P indicated that there was a plan to return the engine pulled in 2008 to the airframe now more data had been collected on the debris counts of the other engines, but that this was subject to a final sign-off by MA / RR.

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Re: Engine swap
« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2011, 01:42:40 PM »
I asked this question during Taff's Q+A at the members day, and his reply was that the engine which was pulled due to a high mag-reading was done as a precaution, and that the current feeling is that it should be okay to use.  According to data from RR, 150 hours should see enough time for a new engine to settle down and flush out any debris left from manufacture, and the pulled engine hasn't had anywhere near as much use.  Taff certainly seemed optimistic that they would be able to return the pulled engine to service.
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Re: Engine swap
« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2011, 03:23:35 PM »
The above comments do not include any info on the ECU pulled for corrosion checks,is this one likely to be returned to flight status as well?
Any info from Taff or the Engineering team would be appreciated.

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Re: Engine swap
« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2011, 10:25:17 PM »
It's all in the hands of the Gods

We have put recommendations forward via MA to RR on all of our Engines, to ensure we have a long and safe operation, for as long as we can.  

All I can add to this is 'stand by to standby' we will let you know when we know!

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Re: Engine swap
« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2011, 09:24:17 AM »
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It's all in the hands of the Gods

We have put recommendations forward via MA to RR on all of our Engines, to ensure we have a long and safe operation, for as long as we can.  

All I can add to this is 'stand by to standby' we will let you know when we know!

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Cheers for that,good to know that we might have all the engines available again at some point.

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Re: Engine swap
« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2011, 09:43:22 AM »
Oh - for a virtual F700 - Now theres an app for a phone for you - XH558 F700 app  :D  :D
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Re: Engine swap
« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2011, 09:05:25 PM »
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All I can add to this is 'stand by to standby' we will let you know when we know!
So I take it that at this point you're still unsure which two engines will be going into the airframe?
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Re: Engine swap
« Reply #10 on: December 12, 2011, 09:16:59 PM »
I was at RR today teaching a course.  One of the students told me that there is an idea being floated unofficially, to rebuild the 4 Vulcan Olympus engines from the RR museum as a project for their 3rd year apprentices.  Don't know how developed this idea is or even if its just in his head,  but he had noticed my coat and remarked about it, funny old thing we ran behind schedule this afternoon.
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Re: Engine swap
« Reply #11 on: December 14, 2011, 11:47:50 PM »
While we're talking about engines. The Olympus 593s in Concorde were "handed" with ancillaries being different depending which side they went into the aircraft. They could be changed over with a ball aching amount of work apparently.

Are the 301s the same in XH558 ?
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Re: Engine swap
« Reply #12 on: December 15, 2011, 12:07:58 AM »
301's wont fit 558 she has 200's..  all 4 are basically the same,  number 4 is diff as it has no hydraulic pump; apart from that i think all the ancilliaries that dress the engines are all in the same place, ie not handed
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Re: Engine swap
« Reply #13 on: December 15, 2011, 09:13:15 PM »
Here is a shot of No 1 and 2 engines looking forward. The commonality is there if you look closely... Aren't they fabulous?
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Re: Engine swap
« Reply #14 on: December 15, 2011, 11:01:58 PM »
Orgasmic...........
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