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Red Arrows Silverstone Display – Sun 22 Aug 2010
« on: August 25, 2010, 01:08:19 PM »
An interesting explanation of the cancellation of Sundays display from Red 1 is given on their team news page:

http://www.raf.mod.uk/reds/teamnews/ind ... 383083343D

Just goes to show how complex air displays are :o
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Re: Red Arrows Silverstone Display – Sun 22 Aug 2010
« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2010, 03:06:57 PM »
A very interesting read!
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Re: Red Arrows Silverstone Display – Sun 22 Aug 2010
« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2010, 03:55:08 PM »
It does indeed!

If you think about the speeds they display at it will takes about 70-90 seconds to reach the 6nm radius from leaving the display datum.
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Re: Red Arrows Silverstone Display – Sun 22 Aug 2010
« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2010, 04:44:52 PM »
I bet the Reds were chuffed. The one occasion over the weekend they could actually display and then some glider club goes and encroaches their airspace!  :evil:
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Re: Red Arrows Silverstone Display – Sun 22 Aug 2010
« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2010, 07:45:03 PM »
Surely the gliding club was aware of an airshow nearby ?  :x
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Re: Red Arrows Silverstone Display – Sun 22 Aug 2010
« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2010, 09:24:11 PM »
Is action likely to be taken against the pilots who encroached?

It is a very interesting read.  Particularly the fact that some of the pilots have to monitor and mentally process other radio transmissions, whilst concentrating on Red 1's instructions, and flying a jet just feet away from others.  They really are on a different level from us mere mortals.
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Re: Red Arrows Silverstone Display – Sun 22 Aug 2010
« Reply #6 on: August 25, 2010, 09:29:02 PM »
Quote from: "Prometheus"
Surely the gliding club was aware of an airshow nearby ?  :x
They were well aware  :x
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Re: Red Arrows Silverstone Display – Sun 22 Aug 2010
« Reply #7 on: August 25, 2010, 10:32:45 PM »
Quote from: "HowSlo"
Is action likely to be taken against the pilots who encroached?

It is a very interesting read.  Particularly the fact that some of the pilots have to monitor and mentally process other radio transmissions, whilst concentrating on Red 1's instructions, and flying a jet just feet away from others.  They really are on a different level from us mere mortals.

Action has been taken in the past with some serious consequences - It is all pilots responsibility  AND Navigator [if there is one] to read NoTAMS.
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Re: Red Arrows Silverstone Display – Sun 22 Aug 2010
« Reply #8 on: August 26, 2010, 12:58:47 PM »
I do hope that serious consequences befall not just the infringing pilots, but the organisers of said gliding event. Drop zones, Start Zones etc for the comp should have taken in the RA(T) and been adjusted accordingly by the comp directing staff and all the pilots should have been made aware of the airspace restriction in the morning "Prayers"
There should be NO EXCUSES for this kind of thing... especially a 10-20 strong gaggle of gliders merrily infringing NOTAMed controlled airspace without a care in the world.....

/rant over.
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Re: Red Arrows Silverstone Display – Sun 22 Aug 2010
« Reply #9 on: August 26, 2010, 11:27:51 PM »
Quote from: "Cluny"
Quote from: "Prometheus"
Surely the gliding club was aware of an airshow nearby ?  :x
They were well aware  :x
I can't see how they can get away with the infringements then.
Ang em all I say  :twisted:
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Re: Red Arrows Silverstone Display – Sun 22 Aug 2010
« Reply #10 on: August 27, 2010, 07:35:16 AM »
There's a couple of aviation fora with more details on this (pprune being one, can't remember the other) - one of the pilots involved has apologised and given some background: gliding event was a junior competition at Bicester (so many pilots relatively inexperienced), and the organisers, despite being aware of the restriction zone around the Reds, changed the route at the last minute (due to weather), placing a turning point only 200m from the restricted area. Over 20 gliders (from a field of 44) ended up infringing, and have apparently reported to the CAA. Personally I'd hold the organisers at least as culpable as the pilots on this one.
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