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Re: Peoples Mosquito
« Reply #30 on: April 03, 2012, 09:50:11 PM »
It's a data plate rebuild, the only original bit will be the plate and like most classic warbirds pretty much all of it will be new build.

Can't say I blame them for not talking to ukarse, like most fora it's full of armchair experts who think that having a camera and spouting airport codes and acronyms hides the fact they know bugger all :-)
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« Reply #31 on: April 04, 2012, 08:58:27 AM »
Not even a 'data plate rebuild'  ;)  ....... from the list { and photos } of the various bits of scrap & detritus which have been published on various Fora , the one thing they don't seem to have is a data plate from RL249.

As for UKARse.......don't forget , DanO's a professional journalist ..... as it says on RIAT's Website :
Dan, from the West Midlands, is one of the world's leading freelance television football commentators and sports journalists. He is also one of the few football commentators to have appeared on all the major sports broadcasters in the UK - BBC, ITV, Channel Four, five, Setanta Sports, Eurosport and Sky Sports as well as working regularly for a host of overseas channels covering the world's greatest competitions. Dan, whose career in football commentary began after he won BBC Radio Five Live's 'Young Football Commentator' competition in 1997, made his BBC Match of the Day debut aged 26.
See.....an eminently qualified member of the UKAR team !!  :lol:
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« Reply #32 on: April 04, 2012, 06:07:22 PM »
If they don't have that plate then they're stuffed. Without it then it's a new build where all the materials and manufacturing processes need approval. Having that plate makes the job easier than impossible. Be interesting to see how they solve the problems with the glue
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« Reply #33 on: April 04, 2012, 07:49:02 PM »
Well , TPM's website says : "The remains include the all-important identity, along with several other original items."
On the other hand , every other fora only states : remains of main spar & undercarriage supports.
A link to an article in the Eastern Daily Press : http://www.okmmetaldetectors.com/metal-detector-finds/airplane-parts/edp24.pdf
You'll see that the article mentions the fact that the engines were removed before the wrecks { as in , more than one ! } were burned then buried.
So unless there happens to be a data-plate attached to the main spar { would it have one ? } or some other airframe-specific ID code{ or a 'part number' that can be positively traced back to RL249 } , I'd have thought it would be difficult to prove provenance --- can they prove beyond a doubt that the bits they possess actually came from RL249 and not from any other Mosquito which may have been dumped there ??
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« Reply #34 on: April 04, 2012, 08:06:02 PM »
It's possible that it's the data plate when they talk about it's identify. There's warbirds flying today that the only part that's original and not brand new is the data plate, but having that plate makes them authentic and a restorAtion rather than a brand new aircraft that they are.
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« Reply #35 on: May 03, 2012, 03:57:34 PM »
Well , from various other Fora......

I see that questions are still being asked about exactly how much { and what } of the existing airframe they posess and - more importantly - do they have anything { such as a data plate } which can prove provenance of what they posess.

Apparently , there was an "interview" in a recent edition of 'Flypast' { although from what posters have said , it was nothing more than an advert }.

There will supposedly be a proper interview given in the next issue of 'AirshowStuff Magazine' { which , looking at their website - http://magazine.airshowstuff.com/index.html - doesn't even appear to be a European , let alone British publication !!  :roll:  }

TPF's website now has a "FAQ" section : http://peoplesmosquito.wordpress.com/faqs/#F10
Like posters on other Fora , I'm a bit dubious about their estimates of "3 to 5 years" for construction & that "After speaking to our planned suppliers for the airframe, preliminary research on the engine options, plus all the ancillary equipment and specialist engineering, we estimate construction, shipping and associated air certification costs at circa £5m"
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« Reply #36 on: May 03, 2012, 04:11:41 PM »
more like 10 -15 years i would of thought!! £5 million might be about right depends on how much they can do themselves and how much has to be contracted out i guess, an dthe longer it spends in a hangar the more rent, electric, wages, and bills need paying
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« Reply #37 on: May 03, 2012, 04:16:57 PM »
just reading the site a Mr Bill Ramsey has joined the team

http://peoplesmosquito.wordpress.com/20 ... uito-team/
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« Reply #38 on: May 03, 2012, 05:08:26 PM »
I must admit my first thoughts were £5M it may cost if they do a lot of work themselves but will take longer than 5 years but if they want to stick with a 5 year time frame then can I see them needing a lot of 3rd party work and £5M won't go very far.

Whatever I wish them luck and having been in close proximity of 558 for many years when people were saying it couldn't done and knowing how wrong they were you would need to be a very brave person to say it won't happen.
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« Reply #39 on: May 03, 2012, 05:15:48 PM »
We had a good chat with Bill after the v force reunion about the mosquito project. Sounds like there's an awful lot of work to do, both with CAA & the mossi itself.
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« Reply #40 on: May 03, 2012, 07:36:09 PM »
Quote from: "Mayfly"
....558 for many years when people were saying it couldn't done and knowing how wrong they were .....
Big difference being , of course , that the Trust had a complete airframe { with provenance } and a load of spares , somewhere to carry out all the required work , as well as being granted funding by the HLF.
TPM , on the other hand , have an un-named assortment of rusty bits { in all probability with no provenance other than a presumption that they're the remains of RL249 } , no spare parts & no HLF funding.
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« Reply #41 on: May 09, 2012, 07:18:18 PM »
Nice to see various UKARse forum members - and one opinionated moderator in particular { guess who !!  :lol:  } - have now totally lost the plot and seem intent on showing how ridiculous they are !!  :roll:  { See from : http://forums.airshows.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=40935&start=450  }
Particularly laughable is said moderator's comment about their offer of an interview to be "conducted by a professional broadcast journalist" ...... err...what.......you mean a glorified sports reporter who acts in a totally unprofessional manner on that forum ??
No wonder TPM have given up & turned to Key Publishing's forum instead.
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Re: Peoples Mosquito
« Reply #42 on: May 10, 2012, 12:10:20 AM »
O Hagan. Putting the arse into UKARSE every day of the week.  :D
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« Reply #43 on: May 10, 2012, 11:13:23 AM »
Oh , look.......UKARse have just deleted their original TPM topic & started a new one !!
Guess even they were embarrassed by it !!  :lol:
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« Reply #44 on: May 21, 2012, 02:33:25 PM »
Lol, the new thread on UKARSE seems to be going the same way as the old one, and it still seems to be their mods doing the whining.  :lol:
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