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Offline peteuk1

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Roundells on XH558
« on: January 05, 2013, 05:35:30 PM »
In XH558's earlier flying years, the RAF insignia only featured on the upper surface of one wing.
Nowadays there is a roundall on both wings.
 Can anybody explain the significance of number of roundells change ?
(query was recently posted on xh558 fb and has remained unresolved there)
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Re: Roundalls on XH558
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2013, 11:01:25 AM »
Good question. Anyone know the answer??? Sam????
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Re: Roundalls on XH558
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2013, 12:04:11 PM »
Not just XH558 that had a single RAF roundel on the upper wings ..... I've seen quite a few photos of other aircraft with the same scheme , ranging from Victors to Spitfires & as far back as WW1 aircraft.
As for the reason why...... now I may be wrong in the case of the V-bombers , but could it have had anything to do with their change of role from high-altitude to low-level bombing ??
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Re: Roundalls on XH558
« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2013, 09:00:53 AM »
This wikipedia page has some good illustrations and explanations:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Air_Force_roundels
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Re: Roundalls on XH558
« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2013, 09:51:59 AM »
I thought that 558 was a "One Off" and not realy representative of any colour scheme used in RAF service and only used on the VDF aircraft.

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Re: Roundells on XH558
« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2013, 10:31:35 AM »
Current/original type seems to comply with the low visibility format (last but one in the table)

"Low-visibility roundel used on camouflaged aircraft since the 1970s (note different proportions from Type B)."  

Although, going back to the originator's question, I have no idea why the famous photographs of '558 and '557 flying together (50th Book - pages 36 and 37) show only one wing roundel. (of the different Red/White/Blue type!)

Maybe, they were just part-way through painting them on/changing design! ??
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Re: Roundells on XH558
« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2013, 11:10:54 PM »
According to Craig Bulman's book, the red/blue roundels began to replace the red/white/blue ones in 1972. In 1973 they started being applied to the starboard wing as well as the port one. The two roundels were universal by 1977.

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Re: Roundells on XH558
« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2013, 07:57:21 PM »
R/W/B roundels are obviously high-vis, hence only one to keep visibility of it to a minimum. But with low-vis R/B type, two are acceptable...well that's my view anyhow.
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