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Offline Ollie Impus

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« on: January 17, 2013, 10:49:09 AM »
Not good to read of the 787's problems.Pioneering technologies have caught aircraft manufacturers out at least once or twice before... this time Boeing are having to face the in-service difficulties. At least so far without any real loss incurred and let's hope it stays that way. Funny how only one US carrier (United) has 787's. Were the others waiting to see how the 'foreigners' got on with the 787 first?  

BBC website has a very informative image pointing out where the engines and cockpit are located. Even all the electronics being in one place? Useful stuff
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-21054089
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Re: (bad)dreamliner
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2013, 12:30:35 PM »
Li-ion cells + aircraft = bad news, the technology isn't safe enough yet.
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Re: (bad)dreamliner
« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2013, 04:41:45 PM »
should be called the Nightmare-liner
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« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2013, 04:49:14 PM »
And anyone watching BBC News24 would have seen Sean Maffett { wearing his Vulcan lapel badge ! } being interviewed about the problems.
I did have a good laugh listening to Radio4 early this morning when they were speaking to him , with his comment "The batteries are being a bit naughty and setting themselves on fire" !!  :lol:
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Re: (bad)dreamliner
« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2013, 05:01:25 PM »
I noticed him wearing that yesterday when discussing the helicopter crash in London
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Re: (bad)dreamliner
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2013, 12:48:33 PM »
Nobody panic! I've got an A340-600 and then an A330-200  :D  I can only imagine how worried you all were.........  :D
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Re: (bad)dreamliner
« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2013, 03:18:37 PM »
Only slightly less than I am about belly button fluff  :D
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« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2013, 08:07:38 AM »
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Re: (bad)dreamliner
« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2013, 10:19:22 AM »
When all the issues are resolved it wil be the aircraft to travel on!

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Re: (bad)dreamliner
« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2013, 10:50:36 AM »
Good cartoon - lol :D
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Re: (bad)dreamliner
« Reply #10 on: January 20, 2013, 11:04:02 AM »
Well they haven't really solved the similar issues with LiOn batteries on laptops or EVs yet , although newer type batteries using different compounds -- most LiOn batteries use Cobalt , although ones using Iron Phosphate are much safer but hold a smaller charge -- could the answer.
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Re: (bad)dreamliner
« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2013, 02:46:21 PM »
Li-Po batteries that are used in model aircraft these days also are prone to catching fire,quite a few youtube videos to prove the point.

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« Reply #12 on: January 24, 2013, 03:09:58 PM »
Might be wrong , but I think the LiPo batteries are still Cobalt-based { the 'Po' bit just means it's a solid polymer battery }
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« Reply #13 on: January 24, 2013, 06:35:18 PM »
US safety officials have widened their probe into a Japan Airlines-operated Boeing 787 Dreamliner, after deciding that overheating was not the cause of a battery fire.
The focus is now on the battery charger and the plane's auxiliary power unit.
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« Reply #14 on: January 29, 2013, 05:16:36 PM »
If anyone gets really bored , they could always read this thread on the PPRuNe forum :
http://www.pprune.org/tech-log/505695-787-batteries-chargers.html
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