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Lever above the Nav Radar position
« on: September 02, 2013, 11:02:16 PM »
Another question about the cockpit controls.

Above the Nav Radar position (in the roof), in between both nav positions really, there is a smallish (approx 6" wide and a foot long but in two separate little covers) there is a red lever.
It's marked something to do with 'storage'.
I've asked John Lewer, who was a Nav Radar on Vulcans, but he doesn't remember what it was. There is a theory that it is to release the bomb payload, overriding the normal release mechanism, because it is possible that the when deployed at high speed a vacuum could be created preventing the bombs releasing normally.

Does this sound right or is there another reason for this lever?

Thanks in anticipation again.
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Re: Lever above the Nav Radar position
« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2013, 11:52:04 PM »
I recall that in the Blue Steel role there were two handles behind the covers, one was the Store Release handle and the other the Safety Lock removal handle.

The illustration in the Aircrew Manual, Miscellaneous Controls and Equipment - Crew Stations (Blue Steel Role) Items 38 & 39 refers.

Hope this is of help but stand corrected if I am wrong as it is over 40 years since I last worked on a Blue Steel aircraft.

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Re: Lever above the Nav Radar position
« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2013, 05:42:07 PM »
That's it, the store release handle. What 'store' is it referring to though, the packed lunches?  :)) :)) :)) :)) :))

I have those diagrams so I'll look it up but some of the descriptions tell you what it is but not what it does, as in this case with the 'store'.

Also, on the diagrams, the key for fig 1 is missing so that makes identification of the first lot of flying instruments a bit difficult to identify other than obvious ones like common or garden instruments which all aircraft have.
Some switches, knobs and buttons have something alongside them to say what they are, e.g. the engine start and rapid start buttons, but again not all of them.

Thanks very much for your help.
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Re: Lever above the Nav Radar position
« Reply #3 on: September 03, 2013, 08:24:45 PM »
"Store" is the bucket of sunshine (or conventional bombs) in the bomb bay Dave.

The pilots notes and checks call for checks on the "Emergency Bomb Jettison" and such but the switches are labeld "Store jettison"

I can't imagine any circumstances which would require the crew to jettison the sandwiches!
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Re: Lever above the Nav Radar position
« Reply #4 on: September 03, 2013, 09:02:17 PM »
I can't imagine any circumstances which would require the crew to jettison the sandwiches!

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Re: Lever above the Nav Radar position
« Reply #5 on: September 03, 2013, 10:18:52 PM »
Hmm = @ least the rear crew would be able to find the sarnies (as they would then be glowing in the dark!)

Anyway from what you said I'd have thought you'd eaten all the sandwiches long before you found the cloud  ;)
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Re: Lever above the Nav Radar position
« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2013, 12:13:47 AM »
As a follow up to my last post, on the Blue Steel fit the bomb doors were removed and fairings fitted that the upper surface of the Blue Steel was winched into. Electrical connection was made by large butt connectors which were extremely temperamental. The release mechanism was a seperate assembly.

It is my understanding that the two handles referred to the Emergency release of the Blue Steel missile and served no function for a Vulcan in the conventional or nuclear free fall bombing role.

Page 196 of Tim Laming's book the Vulcan Story, published 1993, shows the covers together with several references to other items with the word "store" in the captions.

Page 198 shows the same layout for a Vulcan in the free fall role where all references are to "bomb" rather than "store".

Hope this clarifies matters.

As previously I stand corrected by anyone who actually did the Blue Steel course and may have the original notes which will confirm or deny the above.


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Re: Lever above the Nav Radar position
« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2013, 08:06:07 AM »
Thanks for that 50ltech, the chairman of the museum was a Nav Radar and he had no idea what the lever was for so he must have joined Vulcans when they were not carrying Blue Steel.
I've passed the string on to him as he would be interested.
Thanks again all for the information.
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