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Martin Baker Parachute positioning
« on: November 13, 2013, 07:11:04 PM »
Hello you knowledgeable types on this sort of thing that I have no idea about!

We (Jet Age Museum) have managed to get a Martin Baker parachute, it's not off a Vulcan but it is for the MB Ejection Seat.
Does this look like it's the right way up?
I undid the round locking device that takes the 4 webbing straps which I'm pretty sure are for the parachute itself.

Are the blue belts for securing the pilot to the seat?

Thanks very much, again!

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Re: Martin Baker Parachute positioning
« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2013, 09:04:30 PM »
I'm no expert but it doesn't look quite right to me.
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Re: Martin Baker Parachute positioning
« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2013, 10:36:29 PM »
I'm probably a bit more of an expert and it does not look right to me either!

I'll see if I can get a picture of one of the dressed seats we have in the hangar - cos there aren't any in the jet @ the moment  ;)

The next challenge will be loading the picture up onto here.
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Re: Martin Baker Parachute positioning
« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2013, 08:10:02 AM »
Sit the parachute on the horse shoe [curved] part of the back seat that will lift the whole thing up. The brown pads are lumber pads, aircrew sit on the dinghy pack [yellow box]

The blue straps are some of the ones that attach the pilot to the safety equipment, there should be some very short straps [sticker straps] that attach the SE [safety equipment] to the seat but as it's not the correct type the SE may not sit right.

I should have some diagrams some where but haven't a clue where they are.

Edit: There some diagrams tho' not an exploded view in the Aircrew manual if you have it... AP101B-1902-15
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Re: Martin Baker Parachute positioning
« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2013, 06:40:14 PM »
Are these any help















« Last Edit: November 14, 2013, 06:43:48 PM by mackrick »
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Re: Martin Baker Parachute positioning
« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2013, 07:38:54 PM »
Fantastic response as always, the descriptions and photographs show me exactly where I was going wrong.
I knew it was wrong because the pads are 'back pads' but it didn't work with the horseshoe parachute pack on the seat. Anyway, if you deployed it you'd finish up descending upside down!
Last time I wore a parachute was 1966, chipmunk air experience flights when I was in training at Cosford!

I wondered where the horseshoe bit on the seat back came into it - Thanks again

I'll set it up correctly on Saturday morning before the visitors start.

We had a training session last Tuesday evening given by John Lewer. Told us about the Nav Radars job of bomb plotting. He explained the offsets which made me realise how much bullsh!t I'd been giving to visitors up to now!! At least now I can tell them how the offsets really work HAHAHAHAHAHA

Thanks again
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Re: Martin Baker Parachute positioning
« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2013, 08:14:56 PM »
Glad they are of help..... I have more if you need a specific part of the seat to look at.

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Re: Martin Baker Parachute positioning
« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2013, 10:26:27 PM »
Hello Again,
The advice has been great but the parachute just doesn't fit.
Must be for a different mark of ejector seat because there is no way the horseshoe (leather bound at the top) is too small to fit over the metal curved bit on the seat at about neck height.
I tried to ease it on with a wheel brace but not a chance.

I was told it was not from a Vulcan so if it will fit one of the other aircraft in the collection, maybe the Javelin or Meteor, I'll have to give it over!

However, in the meantime I've tied it on until I can get a look at the other aircraft seats.

Thanks again for all of the help.
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Re: Martin Baker Parachute positioning
« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2013, 09:48:04 AM »
Quite possible David - The Vulcan seat is basically the same seat as a JP but they are different marks because they have subtle differences and vary because of the fit /width of cockpit ect thus the SE will vary too.